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Purplish Pres Dollar

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 Posted 04/07/2008  5:26 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add CoinGeek to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Anybody have thoughts on this? The $1 with the odd finish was found in a fresh roll from the bank. It is pictured with a regular one from same roll. There were 3 others in the roll that were partially finished like this but lighter. More like uniformly splochy. None in the other 3 rolls I got that day.
Is this sintering?
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 Posted 04/07/2008  6:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add copperflopper to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Probably hand rolled and toned that way
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 Posted 04/09/2008  12:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinGeek to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Unlikely I think in that they were procured from the bank were part of their distribution from the armored car company and within the first week of release. Even if this were not so, what would be the motive? I saw a similar piece but different president recently at a show for sale at $45 as an error. The dealer said it was "sintered" and claimed the error rate to be 1 in 5,000 to 10,000. He was busy so I questioned him no further. Thanks for the reply.
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Yep, It is a sintered planchet error.

Thanks,
Bill
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Thanks for the response Bill.
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Could you show a straight-on photo of the other three as well?
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I'll see what I can do about that once I get home from work later today.
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I stand corrected, there were 4 others. Here are 2 shots each of the obverses and reverses. The coin in the top middle is the same one from the prior picture and top left is a regular piece for reference. I'm not a great photographer and it's hard to get lighting that does the finish justice. Probably best is 2nd reverse shot. That why I picked the initial angled shot in the post above.
The finish looks like it would just rub off and I got curious enough to test the theory by rubbing the field of one with the edge of a bamboo chopstick and it wouldn't leave a mark.


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I bet I'm not the only one that doesn't know what the term sintered means. Could some one educate me on this term?
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After a blank is punched, it is run through an upsetting mill to form the initial rim, creating a planchet. The planchets are placed in rotating annealing ovens to soften the metal for striking. Since they are turning, rotating, and generally banging into each other, the planchets shed a fine metallic dust. A sintered planchet is created when one is stuck in the annealing oven for an extended time, fusing(not melting) the metal dust to the surface of the planchet giving it a dark splotchy surface.
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Biokemist6 - Thanks for the info.
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