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1792 Half Disme - You Vs TPG

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Ahhh...the one that started it all! Put this coin next to a brand new Ferrari, 10x out of 10 I'm taking the coin!.......




1792-Half-Disme---You-Vs-TPG

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Is this your coin?
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No JP it is not. At the very least, I hope to see it in person one day.
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My grade would be AU-55.
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AU-55. Nice.
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AU55 also, this is such as cool coin.
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AU-58 awesome piece of history!
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That's the coin rick snow has for sale. Beautiful surfaces and pretty toning.
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MS63 no doubt! An early pattern/specimen Half Disme of this quality and color will get the benefit of the doubt and go uncirculated IMO.
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Rick's coin looks similar but this one is finer. Sorry for the misdirect.
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS
THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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AU-55.
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MS63 no doubt! An early pattern/specimen Half Disme of this quality and color will get the benefit of the doubt and go uncirculated IMO.


It sure looks like the piece NGC graded MS63.
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It sure looks like the piece NGC graded MS63.


Sad but true.

According the new book by Pete Smith, Joel Oroszand and Leonard Augsburger, 1792 Birth of a Nation's Coinage, this coin was graded AU-50 in 1987. It realized $14,250 in an auction at that time. After that it went into the NGC MS-63 holder and fetched $402,500 in 2007.

This why grade-flation is alive and unwell. It creates illusions like this. The coin is a Choice AU and nowhere near MS-63. It's not even an MS-60. But the games continue.
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i dont get it. the type of scratches on both sides of this coin plus the wear on the forehead and cheek cannot warrant an MS grade. its a magnificent coin but not MS imo
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Four hundred grand. Good grief.
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This was the first US mint issue created from coin tendered personally by Thomas Jefferson. From a historical perspective, the price is imho warranted because of its provenance. I would prefer this over other $400k coins priced at this level due to rarity or condition.

It is also not a bad looking coin.
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS
THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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