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Seated Liberty Half - Salt Water Damage?

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Here is a 1875-S Seated Liberty half dollar that I purchased on ebay this week.

The brown spots on the coin actually look like the silver plating on the coin flaking off.

What is your opinion?

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 Posted 04/10/2008  09:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SeatedNut to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The coin looks like the genuine article. Have you weighed it? It has little wear, so it should come in at 12.5 grams. Anything less than 12.2, I would be suspect. The spotting could be a result of contact with a reactive chemical.
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Thanks Dave. I certainly can't tell that it's not real from the coin itself. It's just the strange browning and the lack of silver from the back that's got me concerned.

My next move was definitely a scale. I'll go find one! Thanks for the official weight.
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This coin looks like a perfect candidate to be used as a pocket piece for awhile.
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:) I just went and bought a cigar box over lunch today to restore the toning.

I am going to scan in a closer shot soon so you can see the brown spots.
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Wonder if the coin would benefit from a little acetone bath.
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Very much so. I posted the auction pictures. The acetone back cleaned off the back and some large chunks fell off.
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Here is a closer scan to the image after the acetone bath. The dark areas on the front do look a lot better than before. The pitting on the back really shows up with this latest picture.



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Looks like it's been in saltwater for awhile. Possibly a salvage piece.
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Baking soda in boiling distilled water might take the spots off. In the microwave, boil a pinch of baking soda and a pinch of salt with 1 cup distilled water. I use a 2 cup, glass, Pyrex measuring cup. When boiling rapidly, remove the measuring cup from the microwave. Place the coin on a small piece of alluminum foil, and drop them in the hot solution together. Wait a few minutes and watch the spots disappear. The process can be repeated if needed, change both solution and alluminum foil. The solution allows the oxidation to transfer from the coin to the alluminum foil. Your brown spots will be gone.
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:D Thanks NGiles. It's my all time favorite way to fix coins like this. It's still in the acetone bath to remove the back gunk. Tomorrow is the salt/baking soda method.
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I figured you probably knew the recipe. I thought I would post that for any newbies that were reading. Post some pics after you have done it.

I have never used acetone, I will have to give it a try. Have you ever used ammonia? It seems to work very well for me. It's what a coin dealer suggested. I haven't heard of or seen any negative effects. It works very fast on most grime, usually just a few minutes.
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Acetone is the only chemical I use so far on silver. It worked wonders on this one.

The salt/baking soda worked well at first, but when I did it a second time, some sort of yellowing happened on parts of the coin. Smelled like sulfur when I did it this time. I'm hoping the water I used wasn't contaminated. I'll go get some new distilled water later today and do it one last time to see if the yellow disappears.

The brown patches did disappear though and once toned, the yellow shouldn't be too unpleasant.
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I have had some dusty yellowing occur also on some coins. I found that if the coin has been in contact with chlorine this happens. I am not sure if any other chemicals will cause this, or if anything in nature will cause it. I've been trying to figure it out also.
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