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Those Darn Self Graders And Their Flips...

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 Posted 04/14/2008  07:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add patrick to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I put the date, mint mark and grade on most of my coins. If I'm new to a series, the practice grading and regrading helps when I'm adding to my collection. I also track a bunch of other things in a spreadsheet, but that gets updated less frequently.

Great thread!

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 Posted 04/14/2008  08:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add toniblab to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
i grade by the old standards if it don't show the line of the wheats its not FINE to me its only a good.i got the real old ANA grading book yet. it is like a bible to me for grading.alot of dealer are using the new grading curve and over grade the coin by 2 grades.
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 Posted 04/16/2008  11:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Learjet to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Why write the date on the 2x2 when it's stamped on the coin?
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 Posted 04/16/2008  11:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add eaglefoot to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Especially when I buy coins in a 2x2 that "others" have graded, dated, etc. etc...., I, of course, take it out of there and put it into my own. I choose NOT to write the "grade" on there, because I don't take "someone else's opinion" on what the coin would grade, much less expect someone else to take "my" opinion on it's grade........hence "buy the coin, not the slab"..(or 2x2 in this case).
People tend to "overgrade" their coins anyway and it's just too subjective with varying levels of "expertise" in grading. Sure there are well described guidelines to grading any and all coins and each in particular that one can follow.......but.......IMHO...I just don't see the point in writing that on my 2x2's.
Perhaps if it was taken out of a professionally graded "slabbed" coin (questionable practice anyway doing that).....and you put it into an album.....then I guess you'd save the "grade sticker" that it came with or something...many do that.....
but why write the grade on a 2x2 ?
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 Posted 04/16/2008  12:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SeatedNut to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Learjet,
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Why write the date on the 2x2 when it's stamped on the coin?


I don't always have my reading glasses with me. I can make out what I wrote on the 2x2, but not the date on the coin without them.
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 Posted 04/16/2008  12:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JimR to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I put the date, mint mark and sometimes the mintage of the coin. I usually assign a grade to the coin as well except I usually keep it simple for example VF, XF AU and so on.

I personally like flips as it makes for easier handling of the coin. Plus I have put too many rim dings in coins trying to remove the staples from a 2x2.
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 Posted 04/16/2008  3:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BobK to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
For world coins I usually write the country, denomination and date. For US coins I usually don't write anything; if I do it's date and mint mark.
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 Posted 04/16/2008  5:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add scott3270 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
i put the year date and mint on my 2x2
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 Posted 04/16/2008  10:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add longnine009 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't see the point of putting grades on flips. Collectors are going to bid accordingly--based on what they like and don't like. They won't care what number is on the flip or what hallucination led to it. They'll care about what they see or don't see.

Investors on the other hand probably won't be too impressed with a flip. For them there's the TPG rent-a-grade game.

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 Posted 04/17/2008  2:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add inacoffeebuzz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't put the grade on the flips, but leave one there if I bought it that way. I usually move everything to a hard plastic container of some kind if it is remotely valuable - just sort of a compulsive habit - and put a little sticker with the year and mint on the container (so I can read it easier).

I do record a grade on my spreadsheet though, mostly to note what it was marked when purchased and in case someone who gets left with my treasure trove needs a reference (although this is relatively unnecessary).

I don't bother with some items - like ASE's - as anything at MS65 or higher is already in a nearly perfect state (IMHO) and I don't care to use a microscope to try to find a difference between MS68 and MS69 (assuming I could see it).
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 Posted 04/24/2008  8:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add murty to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I use 2x2. Put year,,type of coin,and any variety...plus a letter on the back for myself as to grade.
For eg.... L=good,W=Vgood.....so Only I know the code.
Hope this helps
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 Posted 04/25/2008  6:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nobble to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I put my coins into hard plastic slab-like airtight holders but not glued. Other then that I don't add any markings to it. I would rather explain what the coin is and the story behind it in person to people who don't know the coin and for the knowledgable its not neccesary the coin speaks for itself.
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 Posted 04/25/2008  6:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nobble to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Common coins though I use 2x2's and stick in 3 ring binder sheets. Also have proof sets in 3 ring binders I found a place that sells sheets that hold the proofs fairly well. I keep the boxes and coa's but want to be able to easily show off the set without opening the boxes over and over
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 Posted 05/01/2008  8:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add toniblab to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
i only use 2x2's for my coins.and yes I put the grade on them.i grade by the old standards so my grade is on the moneyif the coin don't have that look I don't give the grade.even the graders are giving coin a higher grade than I do.i have in front of me a old ngc graded coin a 1930 s in ms 65 rd I call it a 64 it don't look right to be 65 rd.
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