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You Vs. PCGS - 1964 Small Cent

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Got this one back from the slab factory today.

You-Vs.-PCGS---1964-Small-Cent
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You do know by showing the Certificate # we can look it up, right? Where's the fun in that!?
In Memory of Crazyb0 12-26-1951 to 7-27-2020
In Memory of Tootallious 3-31-1964 to 4-15-2020
In Memory of T-BOP 10-12-1949 to 1-19-2024
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I wont look it up but, it looks like it may be a 65RD
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MS-64 RD
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May I be so blunt to ask why would you pay all the fees involved with a PCGS grading for a 1964 1c, that although looks very nice, does not strike me as an ms66 or ms67?
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Can't figure that our either, but I'll say 66RD.
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It looks 65RD to me too
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65 or maybe 65+. I'd be surprised if it were 66 or higher.
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I checked the grade on the PCGS website and I don't agree, but then again, I'm certainly not the all-knowing and all-mighty PCGS.
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MS-65 RD.
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Maybe the slab wars are taking its' toll on PCGS and they're inflating like their enemy?

Lucked out on that grade...
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Beautiful luster on this coin. I love the reverse side. On the obverse, Elizabeth appears to be keeping an eye on the small carbon spot developing in the A of GRATIA. That's a bit distracting, so I would say MS-64.
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All any TPG cert provides is an opinion. It's up to you to decide if that opinion is in line with reality, and if the eye appeal of a full red cent is worth an extra two grading points over it's technical merits. I imagine it's flashy like a diamond in hand. That said, I've examined an ICCS MS-67, and it's surfaces were very nearly flawless.
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Thanks for your opinions all.

Why did I send it in? Two reasons: needed a coin to fill a submission slot and needed this coin for my registry set.

Grade I expected was 65RD shot at 66. The spot at A of GRATIA is not as dark as shown in photo. The lustre really pops when looking at the coin in hand.

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So what was the grade?
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