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Lucky Cuss Pillar of the Community United States 4883 Posts	Posted 04/19/2017 11:10 pm This was kicking around in a "castoff" bin today, and as such was priced on the cheap. While certainly not in mint state, it still seemed to me in way too high of a grade to have been relegated there. Colligo ergo sum Report this Post to the Staff

TNG Bedrock of the Community United States 10284 Posts	Posted 04/19/2017 11:28 pm Those are heavy duty copper coins aren't they. I have an old one with a different design and from 1769. Pretty neat coins. I wouldn't want to get hit in the head with one. Nice find! Report this Post to the Staff
Lucky Cuss Pillar of the Community United States 4883 Posts	Posted 04/20/2017 4:13 pm Quote: Those are heavy duty copper coins aren't they For sure - this specimens's about 36mm in diameter and weighs in at 19.3 grams. Quote: I have an old one with a different design and from 1769. Much more pleasing aesthetically. Mine is terribly stark and utilitarian looking in comparison. Colligo ergo sum Report this Post to the Staff
TNG Bedrock of the Community United States 10284 Posts	Posted 04/20/2017 6:16 pm They are neat. My pictures are taken at an angle last night and then I flipped them. So the pictures play a trick on your eyes. I try and take a better picture if you don't mind. I think I am going to hunt down one like yours. It's like a Russian "cartwheel" compared to the two penny 1797 British coins. I like big coins and I cannot lie. Report this Post to the Staff
Spence Moderator United States 34409 Posts	Posted 04/20/2017 8:41 pm You other brothers can't deny? "If you climb a good tree, you get a push." -----Ghanaian proverb "The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed." -----King Adz Report this Post to the Staff
Lucky Cuss Pillar of the Community United States 4883 Posts	Posted 04/24/2017 5:50 pm For historical context, I should've mentioned that this coin was issued during the short reign of Paul I, who came to power rather poorly prepared by his mother, Catherine the Great, for the responsibilities of being Tsar. He was mostly distrusted and disliked both at home and abroad, and ultimately assassinated. See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_I_of_Russia Colligo ergo sum Edited by Lucky Cuss 04/24/2017 5:52 pm Report this Post to the Staff
thq Pillar of the Community United States 3343 Posts	Posted 04/24/2017 11:39 pm I would like to get a Pavel ruble, but they're expensive. 2-3x higher than Alexander I in the same grade. Pavel rubles are faked a lot... http://www.ebay.com/itm/Russland-Ru...AOSw32lY0YKh "Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire Edited by thq 04/24/2017 11:44 pm Report this Post to the Staff
gxseries Pillar of the Community Australia 3831 Posts	Posted 04/25/2017 04:46 am Paul I ruble are still affordable within the range of 150 - 200 USD in Fine condition. The earlier Alexander I ruble can actually be more expensive. This is if you are interested in a type set of Paul I coinage. I personally found the smaller silver denomination to be very very pricey. Try a 10 kopek or a polupoltinnik (25 kopek). Poltina and 5 kopek don't appear in the market too often as well. http://gxseries.com/numis/digital_a...e1_small.jpg http://gxseries.com/numis/digital_a...e2_small.jpg My partial coin collection http://www.omnicoin.com/collection/gxseries My numismatics articles and collection: http://www.gxseries.com/numis/numis_index.htm Regularly updated at least once a month. Edited by gxseries 04/25/2017 04:47 am Report this Post to the Staff
thq Pillar of the Community United States 3343 Posts	Posted 04/25/2017 08:10 am That's the kind of 1799 I'd like to have. I like the mass of the imperial rubles. Type coin Alexanders 1810-1820 were what I was referring to. Genuine coronation rubles with the busts are very expensive. I have a cheap counterfeit Pavel coronation ruble that serves as a lesson in what to watch out for. It's underweight by several grams, has distinct casting bubbles, and that strange luster of shiny base metal. "Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire Edited by thq 04/25/2017 08:13 am Report this Post to the Staff
gxseries Pillar of the Community Australia 3831 Posts	Posted 04/25/2017 08:50 am That's the problem - there was never a Pavel coronation ruble. I was lucky when I bought the 1799 ruble. Sellers want something absurd today in similar condition. Back when I started, circulated Pavel ruble coin can be bought for under 100 dollars. Might as well post a date run of them. There is also the 1797 heavy ruble but that's definitely out of my price league... It's actually somewhat hard to find similar coins with the text that's still visible at a 'reasonable' price. I started just before the Russian coin market prices went out of control and hence consider myself lucky. Some coins just do not appear in the market unless I'm prepared to pay moon money. My partial coin collection http://www.omnicoin.com/collection/gxseries My numismatics articles and collection: http://www.gxseries.com/numis/numis_index.htm Regularly updated at least once a month. Report this Post to the Staff
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