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Would This Seated Dollar Benefit From An Acetone Dip?

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So I recently purchased this 1870 Seated dollar from the central states auction for roughly $300 under what most 1870 au-50's sell for at auction.

I suspect it's due to the dark toning. But I'm not sure if an acetone dip would make a difference given how crusty the toning is.

Thoughts?

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No.

It does not appear to have any organic soluble material on it surfaces.

Pleasing enough coin as it is. I need a such a type coin for my collection, and would be quite happy with this one.

I suspect that it is a tad over graded.
In the British system, it would grade at somewhere around VF.
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To answer your question I don't think an acetone dip would help this coin.

This coin is STILL in an older ANACS holder for a reason.....that reason is because 1) it is probably over graded by today's standards and 2) a dip will not remove the heavy tarnish without killing the coin's surface.

I can absolutely assure you that this coin has been seen by many potential buyers and if any one of them thought the coin could be improved with a dip (or cleaning) the coin would have been cracked out, cleaned and resubmitted a long time ago.

Once it comes out of that current AU holder it is highly unlikely it will see that grade again.

You paid 300$ below what AU 1870 Seated dollars normally sell for because the coin will not grade AU today!

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No , Acetone will not help your coin at all . and DON'T use a silver dip as the coin is in circulated condition , that will totally ruin it . Sell it ,or learn to live with the dark tarnish .
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Ugh, I knew I would never hear the end of it in classic coin forum. I tried to be sneaky so I posted it in the general discussion forum but an admin moved it here.

I'm just looking for opinions guys. I highly doubt I would do it but just wanted to get some feedback.
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Agree that acetone won't change the appearance. Still, it's an attractive, original type coin.
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Quote:
Still, it's an attractive, original type coin.

most emphatically.
There are some folks (such as me) who actually LIKE that dark appearance.
Acetone rinsing *might* remove superficial, residual oil from handling or atmospheric pollution, but it's a moot point unless you plan on destroying the slab for a questionable experiment.
I also agree it is likely overgraded.
If you don't like the appearance, peddle it. You will find willing buyers and you will probably realize a small profit.
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I would leave the coin as it is. I like the look and I think you paid the right price for it.
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Leave it as is, there's no real upside to trying anything with that one. From the pictures looks like a XF today or maybe a 35 but with no luster it won't get back into an AU holder.
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Agree, leave it be. Very sharp original coin. Congrats.
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No it wouldn't help so I would be best just left the way it is.
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It is worth more like this than it ever would be if someone tried to "conserve" it. That natural look brings in the buyers who value originality, and those tend to be some very educated buyers who will pay premiums for originality.
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Acetone won't touch it. I'm assuming this coin is all black and you put a lot of light on it to show what's there. You need to photograph it next to another coin (like a currently circulating Washington quarter) to see the darkness. It sold for F12 money for a reason.
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I like it just like it is too. Leave it just as it is.
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If you dip it, it will become a damaged coin.
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I agree with the consensus, but it would grade at EF in today standard, and that is a great buy at that price.
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