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Let's move the discussion here. I had hoped to not hijack the other thread. Yes, I have $5 in it. Yes, I bought it in a lot and sold the rest to make up all but $5 of the cost. The lot was $68, which I believe to be much less than this coin is worth. Here are some better pictures. I still think no better than EF. The strike still leaves a lot to be desired, but it is what it is.  
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I think the difficulty with the other thread ("Why are Flying Eagle cents to expensive?") is that you seemed to be saying to the fellow who wanted an AU specimen for a type set that he should just be patient, since it is possible get an AU Flying Eagle cent for $5, and you said that all AU cents have mint luster, and then you posted this picture.
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Quote:I think the difficulty with the other thread ("Why are Flying Eagle cents to expensive?") is that you seemed to be saying to the fellow who wanted an AU specimen for a type set that he should just be patient, since it is possible get an AU Flying Eagle cent for $5, and you said that all AU cents have mint luster, and then you posted this picture. Well, I am not wrong. I know someone who bought a lot of 9 FE Cents on ebay for $50. After acetone and verdicare, every one graded AU and MS at NGC. And these did have luster. It does happen. Rarely, but it does.
Edited by TypeCoin971793 05/27/2017 10:08 pm
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Not being a flying eagle collector/expert, does this date look odd to anyone? 
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As everyone has there own opinion on your 1857 FE , I'll just say for $5 you did just fine . But IMHO It's not AU nor is it EF , as a matter of fact it's a details coin ''Reverse Looks Cleaned " Not to demean you because I know your a member in good standing ,but that FE just doesn't deserve bragging rights other than the price you paid for it . 
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Quote:I know someone who bought a lot of 9 FE Cents on ebay for $50. After acetone and VerdiCare, every one graded AU and MS at NGC. And these did have luster. It does happen. Rarely, but it does. 9 AU / MS FE Cents for $50! I'd be very happy with that deal One for that price would be a steal. Your $5 deal is a great one. Nothing wrong with that transaction. Most lower-end FE Cents I come across don't have much eye detail.
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Quote: As everyone has there own opinion on your 1857 FE , I'll just say for $5 you did just fine . But IMHO It's not AU nor is it EF , as a matter of fact it's a details coin ''Reverse Looks Cleaned " Not to demean you because I know your a member in good standing ,but that FE just doesn't deserve bragging rights other than the price you paid for it . I only called it AU because that is what CCF graded it originally. I also said was no higher than EF, which implied that it could be lower. Also, what are you seeing on the reverse that is indicative of a cleaning? I just looked at the coin under a 10x loop with a good light and saw absolutely no signs of a cleaning. It looks and feels exactly as a circulated copper-nickel cent should.
Edited by TypeCoin971793 05/28/2017 10:50 am
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Quote: Not being a flying eagle collector/expert, does this date look odd to anyone? Just looked at it. The 7 is damaged. There are two hits on the 7 that smooshed it our towards the rim.
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Comparing dates.. for learning purposes(for me) Possible variety? Number "7" stands out as being different. Top-subject - Bottom-NGC slabbed  
Edited by Coconutjoe 05/28/2017 11:21 am
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Couple more in AU50 slabbed.  
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Agree with Type, I don't see anything indicative of the reverse having been cleaned. Maybe the different lighting.
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Agree the digit 7 was probably flattened by a hit. I also find the soft, light color of the reverse in contrast with rather darker color of the obverse, which suggests an old cleaning. Was it worth five bucks? Probably, but it's a problem coin and always will be.
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Quote: Agree the digit 7 was probably flattened by a hit. I also find the soft, light color of the reverse in contrast with rather darker color of the obverse, which suggests an old cleaning. Was it worth five bucks? Probably, but it's a problem coin and always will be. I adjusted (brightened) the color on the reverse to make the detail stand out more. In hand both sides are the exact same color. I do not believe the coin has been cleaned. You mean that there is a doubt that it is worth $5? I will buy all you have in similar condition for $5, as will everyone else.
Edited by TypeCoin971793 05/29/2017 07:29 am
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I agree that I will buy all you have of these FE for #5 and, I also agree that the 7 has been hit a couple times to bring it towards the rim.
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