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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Edited by Prethen
04/19/2008 5:23 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Hi Prethen,
Very nice Morgan. You need to be careful or else you might actually develop a taste for these coins. Nothing but trouble once that happens!
Let's see....super strike with only a trace of softness in the hair above Miss Liberty's forehead, great frost, only light luster grazes on Liberty's cheek, field marks are few and pretty minor....how about MS-65? It's a beautiful Morgan and a perfect example for type.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Nicely cameoed with lightly mirrored fields, it has a very nice original look indeed!  As for the grade, I like ms64.....although it wouldn't surprise me if it winds up a 63 if it was graded recently by pcgs or ngc. |
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Pillar of the Community
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The funny thing is I'm not sure why, with all the gazillions of Morgans that are at every show, that this one caught my eye to come home with me. The cheek is exceptionally clean, but does show some of that "contact rub" that these will show, but no real marks per se. The fields on the obverse are also really clean. The reverse definitely has a few marks, but I'm unsure how the TPGS's would treat that.
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 United States
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I hesitate to assign the grade based on a photo, but this one could easily see 65 in a slab. 1880 and 1882 San Francisco Morgans make great Type coins - they're usually hammered and frosty, and available cheaply in high grade/PL. The prototypical Morgan, and hard not to like even if your usual interest is elsewhere.
My 7070 Morgan is an 1880-S.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Near gem (MS64). Very nice Morgan Prethen.
I'm not big into Morgan either but an occasional one will catch my eye.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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The cheek is exceptionally clean, but does show some of that "contact rub"In that case, I'll go ms64................with a sticker!  I hesitate to assign the grade based on a photo,Ah now SD, what we gonna' do with the coin grading practice forum if we can't at least grade the images.  I enjoy this section, and have found that if the images are presented honestly and are of a minimum quality that you can not only learn how to grade but can become pretty accurate as well. JMHO.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I believe the obverse is definitely a 65, shot 66. The reverse is a very nice 64. I wonder what it might slab? I'm tempted to possibly one day send this in to NGC.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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believe the obverse is definitely a 65, shot 66. The reverse is a very nice 64. I wonder what it might slab? I'm tempted to possibly one day send this in to NGC.
I've been told a weaker reverse will drop the coin by a half a grade, thus if the obverse is ms65 and the reverse is ms64, it will come out as an ms64.5. If, as you say, the obverse is a shot 66, it should come home in a 65 holder.
That being said, they are grading so tightly right now an ms64 is what I would expect.
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New Member
Mexico
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Wow, these are very good pictures. I'm starting in this wonderful hobby and I liked a lot your coin. Where did you get it from?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I bought the coin from a dealer (Dave Fox) I know very well at a local coin show.
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Valued Member
United States
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OK, I'm having a REALLY hard time with this one. First glance eye appeal grade from both sets of pics I would have said high 64, quite posibly 65. Then onto technical grading, the details seem to flop from obverse to reverse when studied....ie in the first set, the obverse looks better than the reverse. In the second set, I like the reverse more. Kinda like looking at a print, and then the negative.....sorta kinda....hmmmm. Very nice all in all, I'd say mid 64 - 65. Can I hold it? : )
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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On second thought...
I think it deserves the 64 grade that I bought it at (raw). The cheek has a little bit too much roughness for anything close to 66. I've seen some very, very nice 64's in PCGS holders and this would fall into the same category I believe. Regardless, the coin has a great look that's comparable to coins seen in higher grades.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I think this is a 64. There is a bit too much chatter on the cheeks for a 65. I have a few NGC 65 Morgans and there is very little cheek chatter on the 65s I have (not 80-S, though). It think it is better than a 63 though.
If you have money to burn, you could try sending it in three or four times to NGC or PCGS. It'll probably come back as a 64 several times, a 63 once and a 65 once. Once you get the 65, stop submitting! I've known many people to take an NGC or PCGS certfied coin, break it out of the holder and send it back in and get a bump up one grade. Even the grading companies can't agree on grades!
Very nice coin and nice pictures!
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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my 7070 Morgan is a 1881-S which is another date that is usually hammered nicely and can be had in PL for little money (mine is DMPL). Anyway I think this coin should probably grade a MS-65 and if I had the coin in hand it could go up but I am just uncomfortable grading anything above that by a picture
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