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Hey folks. I picked up a handful of foreign coins at the Raleigh show today. Need help with identification please. Here is number 1


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And coin #2



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Thanks as always!
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Russia 5 Kopek

Greece 2 Drachma
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Russia 5 Kopek
To be precise, Russia 5 kopek 2002, Moscow mint (mintmark M).
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I've said it before and here it is again... You people are awesome! I didn't even get out of my chair and here is the answer. Thanks!
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Yea, and those guys beat me to it!
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I was eating supper.
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Yup, I was operating the barbie.

Guessed the first one, missed on the Grecian coin.

Decent pics, Bump111.

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Thank you everybody.

I'm trying to get better with the pics, but I know it will only be so good with my phone camera, ambient lighting and shaky hands

They had the foreign coins 10 for a buck at the show and I got 20. I really enjoy the cheap foreign stuff.
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The obverse of the 2 drachmai coin features a portrait and name of Georgios Karaiskakis and the reverse says "Hellenic Democracy".
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I appreciate the additional info, aristarchus.
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To be fair, the face value of the Russian coin comes out to $0.0009 or so (under current exchange rates).

They're technically still legal tender, and occasionally (very rarely) show up in circulation, but aside from a small issue in 2014 (to facilitate introduction of Russian currency to the Crimea) none were actually minted since 2009 (though even then their exchange rate value was less than $0.002).
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Interesting, January! So, it sounds like Russian coins become obsolete and practically worthless in a fairly quick fashion. Is that the case with all Russian coins? I also have several CCCP coins. Are they low value in country as well?
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Interesting, January! So, it sounds like Russian coins become obsolete and practically worthless in a fairly quick fashion. Is that the case with all Russian coins? I also have several CCCP coins. Are they low value in country as well?
The situation with modern Russian coins is not exactly what you said; that 5 kopek coin would already have been worth $0.0016 when it was originally made in 2002.
(In fact the exchange rate between rubles and dollars had been vaguely stable from the early 2000s until it very quickly dropped by a factor of two in the last few months of 2014, and had remained vaguely stable again since.)

I think it was just out of a desire to actually use the kopeks that the ruble divided into (there was also a 1 kopek coin).
There are certainly higher denominated coins (the highest coin denomination in common circulation is 10 rubles, made as a circulating commemorative since 2000 and as a general issue since 2009, and worth $0.35 in 2011 and $0.18 today).


OTOH, the Russian coins of the 1992-93 series did indeed become obsolete and practically worthless in a fairly quick fashion during a period of hyperinflation in 1991-93 (though they weren't actually demonetized until 1998), and I'm not sure what the status of the low-end Soviet coins was before 1998 but they are indeed close to worthless today (except for a few rare dates).

I suppose the 1997 series might well have only used the ultra-low denominations because that way only one digit of the 1992-93 series currency entirely disappeared away (one new 1997 kopek was exchanged for 10 old 1992 rubles).
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VERY interesting. Thanks for taking the time to explain. I just like the Russian coins for the historic and geographic interest. And many of them are well designed and executed coins.

Can you tell me what it says on the coin?

Do you get US coins over there?
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Can you tell me what it says on the coin?
Sure. 5 #1082;#1086;#1087;#1077;#1077;#1082; = 5 kopek, #1041;#1072;#1085;#1082; #1056;#1086;#1089;#1089;#1080;#1080; = Bank of Russia. Not much really.

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Do you get US coins over there?
Yes, occasionally, though they're usually expensive (ironically, the older ones sometimes come up relatively cheaply; I'm considering buying a very low grade 1902-S Barber quarter for about $7).
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