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Toned Mercury Dime Proofs

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Lately I've been on the lookout for a 1942 Merc proof to add to a complete set of US 1942 coins, proof and circulation. I've noticed that most of the proof Mercs on ebay have a speckled sort of toning, different from what you typically see on a circulation strike. My question is whether this sort of toning is considered desirable. I know that personal preference is the deciding factor in these cases, but I'd still like to hear some opinions. Personally, I like a bit of toning because it ensures I'm not buying a dipped coin. Dipping is a major concern for me and toning seems to be about the only way one can be sure a coin's surfaces are original. At the same time, I don't want to be spending money on a proof with speckled toning if such toning is considered undesirable. Obviously this is very subjective. Thoughts?
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Years ago when I artificially toned my ASE pocket piece with egg I also saw a speckled type of toning, this was caused by the steam from the heat of the egg condensing and then fall on the coin, where it fell no toning was visible....not saying that is the case but it happened to me. If you could post a link so we can see, maybe they are also art toned?
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I do not care for the speckle toning, but it is common on the 1942 PR Merc and does not appear to hurt the value. There are coins for this date that do have nice even toning, but you will have to hunt for the coin. You may also need to pay a small premium.
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Like you say toning on a proof silver coin is subjective to personal taste . For me , I do not like speckled toning .
Either a nice smooth single color or a pretty original rainbow is my liking .
But YOU have to buy the proof coin that knocks YOUR socks off or you won't be happy at the end results .
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Great responses, now I'm encouraged to hunt for a speckle free proof. Here is a 1942 I've been looking at that appears to be speckle free BUT I have now way of knowing if it's dipped without toning:


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What's the verdict, dipped or natural?
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Unless you know the history on the coin, there is no way to be 100% sure if the coin was dipped or not. I would pass on that coin as luster does not look that good for a 66, but it could be the photos. Sometimes it takes a year or more to find that special coin at the right price. Be patient grasshopper.
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, Too hard to tell . Maybe someday TPG's will note on their labels if a coin especially a proof coin, has been dipped .
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Guess I'll keep waiting
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What's the verdict, dipped or natural?

It is impossible to say with the provided scans. Scanned images are generally terrible for evaluating the surface conditions of a coin.
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For sure.



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Those are not that difficult to find in perfect or almost perfect condition. If I were you I'd just keep on looking for a better one.
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You should check at a reputable dealer site, such as David Lawrence... However be careful! I have a proof merc thats in an NGC slab, its INKY... It probably was incorrectly dipped before it went in the slab and then turned that color over time... Painful lesson
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