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Here's an 1872 with nasty scratches showing..but still in need of a grade opinion. Could you add a grade opinion without viewing the scratches and then maybe add the extra comments with the scratches brought in to it ? I went to HA past auctions to zone in on an accurate grade myself. Saw some very similar AU 53's and 50's and even a past AU 55 in this 1872.. more luster in the HA AU55 but same strong and sharp eyelid on both.. Somewhere in the ballpark with the HA examples from the past.. Would some certs say "scratches" or something else on this quarter..? Thanks again..D Cropping clip on this pic..will correct it..if the cropper lets me..  this pic dark with contrast added ..in the full sun..  this pic brighter ..in the full sun and no contrast added..  the rim looks sharp but with toning in and around..  |
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Canada
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Softly struck might make EF40 but I give it an honest VF30
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06/10/2017 3:57 pm
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United States
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EF-45, obviously details.
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https://coins.ha.com/itm/canada/wor...bnail-071515This 1872 has a bit more obv wear in the hair and jewels than my above example.. ..so that's why I gave mine an AU grade also.. There were a few more HA examples that I saw that were also strong AU grades and identical to my example..and not VF 30's.. That's what I was basing my grade on as I'm not really familiar with the 25 cent grading on these vicky 25 cent silver coins.. ..too bad about these scratches.... ..and a 2nd PCGS example.. https://coins.ha.com/itm/canada/can...itage-081514
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06/10/2017 5:02 pm
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Canada
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I'm in 100% agreement with CoinHunter. Looks VF-30 at first glance but probably a soft strike EF40. You can't use PCGS or NGC for Canadian coin standards. Best picture I could find for an EF-40 is from paccoin here http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Canada-1872-...201944995362I find anything below AU58 from NGC or PCGS is grossly overgraded for this series of coins in general. You would probably get AU details from a US TPG. Still a nice example if it wasn't for the scratches. |
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You can't use PCGS or NGC for Canadian coin standards. Oh..but I certainly will be using PCGS or similar for this coin.."if" they will grade it with the scratches. I won't ever use ICCS and that's my promise,.. for those in the know, they do know why.. |
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these wouldn't be considered scratches, they would be considered details, or graffiti marks, scratches are not consistent with your coin.. vf-30 net..
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EF-45 or AU-50..coin has ware, and I'm not good enough with these to determine a soft strike from one that isn't...you coin is sharp, and it has detail and visible luster remaining...nice piece and a very original color..so yea, EF-45 or AU-50 with a graffiti comment would be my grade. Quote:
Could you add a grade opinion without viewing the scratches and then maybe add the extra comments with the scratches brought in to it ?
what you're asking for is referred to as technical grading..this is my preferred way to grade. Feel free to call me Will.
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ICCS would likely grade it EF40...probably EF45/AU50 with PCGS/NGC
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EF-45 or AU-50..coin has ware, and I'm not good enough with these to determine a soft strike from one that isn't...you coin is sharp, and it has detail and visible luster remaining...nice piece and a very original color..so yea, EF-45 or AU-50 with a graffiti comment would be my grade. Thanks again for the many comments on this tough 25 cent coin.. I also can't differentiate a normal strike from a strong strike on these vickies..(I'd need a course) All of you should try to get down to Coin Expo if you ever get the chance. They always have great offerings if you can dig deep enough.. # 12 shows up but with nasty marks..and some nice natural luster remaining..   |
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Never could figure out why some people would take a knife or sharp object and, dig into a nice coin like that.  Shame...I would give it a EF-40 details coin. |
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Never could figure out why some people would take a knife or sharp object and, dig into a nice coin like that. Probably someone with a bit of free time on their hands and a bit of costly doodling.. |
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I've been waiting for the punch line.
I knew you were hiding something in your first photo that's why I didn't comment earlier.
We know you are experienced enough to know that if it was not a rare variety the coin is junk not worth slabbing by anyone,thus I knew you were concealing an A/V.
You know that it will have to go to ICCS as NGC and PCGS will not attribute it.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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06/11/2017 2:09 pm
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I've been waiting for the punch line ..and I knew that you and a few others would also not miss this one..Thanks for coming in on it.. I do appreciate all the plus and negative comments..we only learn from them.. I would never have got it if the scratches had not been on it..that's my feeling about this purchase anyway.... Really hurts to see the rare ones get hurt like this one has.. Question.. ..Can you say "rare" when there are a dozen actually known.. and a few more to come I would expect.. My pop report shows the top one as an EF..so that's why I was trying to squeeze out a higher EF or low AU..  ..The HA/PCGS examples made that quite easy. BTW.. PCGS is slowly adding more Canadian varieties each year..Patience will see it happen one day I feel. We keep seeing CV's F12''as a "top 3 extremely rare". It has the scratch down through the queen and a deep dig in front and with the chin dug into somewhat. So very hard to find a perfect one at a good price I'm guessing..I've seen the F 12 at $17,000.00 then $15,000.00.. http://www.ebay.com/itm/CANADA-25-c...AOSwBt5ZM4KmMine is not an F 12 but I'm still not going to ask the "moon" for it either.. Thanks again for all or any feedback.. I'm not a quarter guy..so this was just a bit of exercise for a nice tough one. _________________ Thanks for that link torgemco.. Haven't seen that page before. _________________ .. . Edited by DEVLEC
06/11/2017 9:44 pm
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