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1901 Indian Penny For Grading

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How would you Grade?

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UNC details, questionable color.
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I see it as having original surfaces and unc.
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That's a strange looking coin - rims seem raised, rough surfaces, wear on the shield, but yet 4 full diamonds. Looks MS62 otherwise.
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64 RD
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Agree 64RD straight, with an outside shot at 65. Nice coin for sure.
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Questionable color. Seller is a known coin doctor for years. Buys AUs and UNCs and recolors red. Run.
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Thanks for the info!
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Solid MS64 RB, quite possibly RD. I think 65 is a stretch.
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The only real issue here is the scrape on the left side of the date, well out of the critical grading areas. The reverse is immaculate gem plus. Yes, I think it has an outside shot at 65. Not taking any bets, but hey.
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Again, doctored. Check sold listings, check toolhaus. But, feel free to buy and send in to grade for proof. Also watch for suckers that resell these in the same flips.

This seller has used at least two other accounts to sell the same. All professionally cleaned / polished and recolored. Very well done, but still doctored and unoriginal.

And yes, I have unequivocal proof, as not only have I tracked this seller over the years, I unwittingly sold a few coins to him, and lo and behold, they were doctored and resold as GEM BU.
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Fully red, exceptional strike, MS 64. I agree with Frog that this might make 65. No indication of any color play.
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It's a beauty. I'm in the MS-64RD camp.
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I never would have guessed the surfaces are not original. I would have thought at least MS-64RD.
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Wow you guys are killing me . Half are saying original 64/65 . The other half of you say cleaned, doctored ,details . lets just say for sure EDS . I don't see any signs of a cleaning or recoloration . Conservation is possible ?
Color looks ok for a MS IHC . There are a few issues with this coin but NOT detail related . As far as a grade I find nothing less than a 65RD .
JMHO .
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Hey, T-BOP. What is EDS?
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