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"environmental damage suspected"?
"Nummi rari mira sunt, si sumptus ferre potes." - Christophorus filius Scotiae
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What is EDS? Early Die state or Stage. Coin features look sharper on coins struck earlier in the die's life. IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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Aha! Thanks for the education.
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Early Die state or Stage. Coin features look sharper on coins struck earlier in the die's life. If it is early die state how does the shield start to look worn at the top. That's what is confusing me with the grading. But yet the obverse details are so sharp. |
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I didn't say the coin was struck with EDS dies.  Just explained what EDS stands for. T-Bop may be around later. Frankly, I don't know enough to spot expert Indian Head cent recoloring and doctoring. IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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I agree with Indian_Hoarder, definitely a doctored coin.
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The color does not match the surfaces -- roughness in the fields, the rims are chewed up in places. This is not a late die state coin so it is not attributable to worn dies.
There is a reason this particular coin is raw -- I would imagine that if it were sent to PCGS or NGC it would come back Unc Details / Questionable Color.
Stay far, far away from this one IMO.
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I don't think we're getting anywhere with this coin . can someone who's close to Rick Snow ask him to evaluate this IHC ? I know he's basically the expert on IHC Varieties , but I'm sure he's experienced enough to tell if this is trash or treasure .  |
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I agree with Indian_Hoarder, definitely a doctored coin. Quote:
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The color does not match the surfaces -- roughness in the fields, the rims are chewed up in places. This is not a late die state coin so it is not attributable to worn dies.
There is a reason this particular coin is raw -- I would imagine that if it were sent to PCGS or NGC it would come back Unc Details / Questionable Color. I agree. The coin just doesn't look right. I previously stated MS62 but after reading all the posts I'll go details also. |
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Edited by indian_hoarder
06/18/2017 9:22 pm
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Has a seemingly endless supply of these "Gem BU" coins in cardboard flips. I agree they look doctored, too good to be true, go buy a slabbed coin for the same price. They look professionally polished, every coin has the exact same gold color. UNC cents tone all sorts of different shades of colors and this is not a realistic scenario. Collectors continue to get played by this stuff.
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Bedrock of the Community
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The evidence points to altered coin. A very deceptive coin that fooled some of us old timers as well.
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I avoided and will not look at his stuff going forward. Thank you all for your guidance.
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