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"Well Struck" Vs "Weak Strike" Coin Examples

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So, I am working on my Roosevelt dime and Presidential dollar albums, and soon plan to start up a Jefferson nickle and a Franklin half dollar collection soon.

In these forums, I often see references to a "well struck" coin as being more desirable, and I presume that means how crisp and clear the details are of the design.

But I am a bit confused about how you can tell the difference when you are looking at coin if what you are seeing is simply "wear" vs. a con that is a "weak strike".

Does anyone have any good examples that compare/contrast what these different "strikes" look like for some of the modern coin types.

And also, how does the 'strike' effect the "Grade" of the coin at all, as I had thought that the "Grade" was primarily based on a combination of surface wear/damage and original luster.

Just trying to increase my knowledge as I start to look at and collect more coins.. want to ensure I only choose ones that are good selections and worth being added to my collection.

Thanks!

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You ask very thoughtful questions! Don't have any examples...yet, but will be on lookout for some. The easiest way to describe a weak strike is the 180° principle. Look at opposite sides of a coin, the depth of details is what to look for. Sometimes it may affect the whole side, the raised detail is shallow. As compared to wear, check the highest points of the details, these wear off first, on weak strikes this is also true. Wear will happen all over, even rim and for most part is consistent. Don't confuse grease filled such as some Lincoln Memorials reverse where the lower portions of UNITED STATES is missing detail, an effect of polishing/grease there. Weak strikes tend to affect the complete letter/number/design.

Have to add this topic to my project of coin IDing!
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Myself, I hate weak strikes. They always appear to be well worn and yet may have been made a few days ago. And it really is difficult to tell the difference. Although mainly a weak struck coin appears to be worn everywhere. Worn coins tend to have mostly the high points worn.
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Many types actually do have a specific designation for examples displaying full strikes. For Franklin halves, FBL for Full Bell Lines; for SLQ FH for Full Head; for Jefferson nickels, FS for Full steps, as examples.

See some of those on ebay and you should be able to understand a little more about full strikes, as well as comparison to those that don't have it. In general full strikes examines the design elements that are first to suffer from weak or average strikes.
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But I am a bit confused about how you can tell the difference when you are looking at coin if what you are seeing is simply "wear" vs. a con that is a "weak strike".

One way I use to tell the difference is by looking at the high points. Both the first signs of wear and weak strike show up there. Wear looks like dark, dull, flat spots on the high points. Weak strike usually looks rounded as if the metal was trying the fill the void in the die but if really bad, they can look flat as well. The second way I use is to look at the amount of original luster. If the coin is missing details but has most or all of the original mint luster, then you most likely dealing with weak strike. Wear removes details and mint luster. Mentioned by Crazyb0, a weakly struck coin show signs on both sides because of Newton's 3rd law. If the hammer die applies insufficient pressure, then the anvil die must as well. It can get a bit complicated when you are dealing with a worn coin that also has signs of a weak strike. Determining how much of the missing details is due to wear or strike takes experience looking at many coins.

Here is an article written by PCGS on the topic: https://www.PCGS.com/News/Strike-We...rading-Tips/


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And also, how does the 'strike' effect the "Grade" of the coin at all, as I had thought that the "Grade" was primarily based on a combination of surface wear/damage and original luster.

Weak strikes usually hurt the grade but the degree depends on what is typical for the coin. A weak strike on a coin that usually comes weak will hurt less than on one that usually comes sharp. From what I gather there seems to be two schools of thought regarding how to deal with a weak strike. One school takes a more grade limiting approach. For example a weakly struck coin cannot grade above MS-64 or 65 no matter what even if the coin would merit a much higher grade based on other factors. The other takes a more grade reduction approach. Sometimes a coin under this approach can grade higher than under the grade limiting approach if the coin has enough superior attributes to compensate for the weak strike.
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Thanks all for all the great information.. very helpful!

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