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1842 Bank Of Montreal Token. Grade?

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This is my first Bank of Montreal token. What are the main points to watch for when grading these, and how would this one grade?


1842-Bank-Of-Montreal-Token.--Grade?

1842-Bank-Of-Montreal-Token.--Grade?
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Akin to the St. George's and the Habitants, this series is also well minted.
Even in lower grades, these series' retain considerable detail.

Concerning higher grade ensamples:

On the obverse, examine the detail of the roof shingles and the slabs of the
sidewalk and the detail of the trees (especially the one on the right). Are they
separate or do they merge together.

On the reverse, the most obvious diagnostic is the X cross in the centre of the reverse.
The cross exhibits many vertical lines. Examine the lines for wear. Are the lines sharp
or do they merge together, or worse. Examine detail of the bulb of the Thistle.

All things considered, this should grade AU 50 or AU 55.
Considering the sharpness of the legend (especially the re-cut O in OF ((retaining strong lines
of demarcation)), the pristineness of the fields, and the remaining luster, I would call this AU 55.

Randy, Nice token and great photos

doug

p.s. I will provide a detailed variety attribution in the nest post.
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Agree AU-50, neat obverse die crack. Nice explanation, colonialtokens.
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Thank you Doug. As always, your answers and descriptions are very educational!

Thanks Coinfrog. I like the die crack too. I love late die states.
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What a beautiful coin..
I have a few of these but, I don't think one this nice..
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Also, Doug says, short trees, tall tress, trees that come up to the top of the window, trees that...

You know, that kind of stuff.
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The reference concerning tall, heavy, and short trees concerns only the tree to the left of the building.

On the tall tree varieties, the upper branches of the tree nearly extend to underside of the horizontal line
separating the second and third floors of the building.

The others (the short and the heavy trees) terminate well short of the same line.

These two are most easily distinguished by the presence or absence of a short diagonal line emerging upwards
from the upper left corner of the of the ground supporting the trees. The line parallels the serif of the
right leg of the N in BANK and is about the same length as the serif of the same letter.

This line is found on the heavy tree varieties.
The short tree varieties do not have this line.

doug.
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