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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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I am going to start collecting 5c, 10c, 20c and 50c peices now, is there anything to look out for other than the missing part of the platypuses claw on the 20c piece.
And how to identify a die crack, think I might have found one.
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Valued Member
Australia
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To start you off, a couple of examples to look for. These found from circulation. Misstrike.  Diecracks....  Also check the rims... |
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Valued Member
Australia
372 Posts |
Tilted collar...  |
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Pillar of the Community
 Australia
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thanks knome, I own one of the top ones, someone said it is a broadstirke error, mines in a sixpence. Die cracks look reasonably hard to identify from normal scratches, but i'll work it out, so theres rim Cud as well, but what is this tilted collar, is it where those lines don't fully reach the bottom? |
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Formerly nancyc
Australia
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A die crack is raised from the coin's surface. Once you've seen just 1, you shouldn't have any trouble identifying them.
life is a mystery to be lived not a problem to be solved
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Australia
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I don't know if theres one on a penny of mine, I tried scanning, because of bad digi camera and u couldn't even see the crack so yeh. So its raised, thanks.
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Australia
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Other than the incuse flag, does anyone know any other 50c errors?
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Formerly nancyc
Australia
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There are some varieties in the 50¢. 1970 - Capt Cook - tilted 7 1994 - Yr of the Family - Wide Date 1979 & 1980 - Double Bars - Rev, behind emu's head - 2 sort of not quite horiz bars visible. I'm sure there's more, but it's getting late & my brain doesn't function too well when I'n getting tired. Errors 2005 - Peace - Cuds on both sides - various locations - Rev soldier's helmet, soldiers elbow, bottom left of Padre's robe Cuds can be found on the Obv of quite a lot of 20¢ & 50¢ coins, on the back of the hair, chin, nose, lips, cheek, front of the hair, neck. Cuds also found on the Rev of 10¢ & 20¢ on the 'zero', on the '1' in a couple years in 10¢, between the long feathers that sweep from right to left on the 10¢, particularly 1999. I'll see if I can add to these lists later on. life is a mystery to be lived not a problem to be solved
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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Low mintages in 50 cents : 1972, 1973, 1985, 1988 Bicentenary, 1991 Rams Head, 1993, 1997, 2000 Royal Visit, all COF 2001, 2007(?) Thats just to add to nancy's list of varieties..  |
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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G'day,
quote: "someone said it is a broadstirke error," -
"broadstrike" is a Seppo term - see the CCF Glossary for a definition. I've never seen an Oz coin, decimal or pre-decimal, with a broadstrike. If anyone else has a pic, I hope they share it. It seems to me that there must be a fundamental difference in minting processes of USA & Oz, because they have broadstrikes, and we don't.
Gnome calls his 2005 coin, above, a "misstrike". I agree. So does Renniks, 22nd edition, page 5.
Peter
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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Don't forget the Holy Grail of twenty-cent coins - the 1966 Wavy 2! |
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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oh k peter ill change to mis-strike.
Thanks for the lisst nancy, given me something to look out for, well even more.
Yu, I own 2 rams heads :) my favorite 50c pieces.
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Valued Member
Australia
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The term broadstrike is used here in Oz...
Broadstrike - A coin struck outside of the collar, resulting in the coin "spreading" beyond its normal dimensions, with no edge reeding.
Ram strike - A planchet not sitting properly within the collar, forced into the collar at striking by the die, creating a high rim or raise lip, and at times struck off centre
Definitions borrowed from Cobweb's page.
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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ok, think i'll call it a mis-strike though (top picture on this page)
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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G'day Gnome,
not familiar with Cobweb.
Ever seen an Auusie broadstrike ? By definition, a broadstrike would have to be over-dimensional.
definition of "Ram strike" - could only apply to non-circular coins. That's the only way "A planchet not sitting properly within the collar" would be "at times struck off centre" - implying that at other times it might be correctly centred.
A circular coin that is "seated correctly" must be centred, and vice versa.
The Seppos also talk about "tilted collar" errors, but I think this is synonymous with what Renniks calls a "mis-strike".
I don't think we do younger collectors any favours by standing by idly while their misunderstandings are set in concrete.
Peter
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Valued Member
Australia
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My appologies, cobwebs is a gent by the name of Ian Hartshorn. Here is a Link to his webpage. As to having seen any broadstruck Aussie coins, I must admit I have and do own a few. There is a broadstruck Link for sale at the moment on Oztion. This is getting off topic at the moment, I was only attemping to show some errors that can still be found in circulation, not predecimals, not varieties but errors as the topic said. |
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