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http://crhfinds.blogspot.com/2008/0...s-finds.html

F1 - First find is a 1999 nickel that has a holographic like silver shimmer to it. It has hard edges and lines, so it doesn't look like it's due to decay. Perhaps this is reaction to something? Or maybe electroplated in something? It doesn't scratch with a fingernail, so it's on there hard...

F2 - Second find is what I believe to be a 1964 D nickel RPMM, but top of the secondary punch is flat, so I'm wondering if it's strike error instead?

F3 - Third find is a 1969 D dime with some strange strike areas - is this just post die (perhaps strike?) damage?

F4 - Fourth find is perhaps a 1983 D RPMM dime?

F5 - Fifth find is a 1985 penny with what looks like the image of the reverse struck on the front --- is this strike through? Is this worth anything?

F6 / F7 - Sixth and Seventh finds are what appear to be 1986 D RPMMs, but the front of the secondary D seems to be missing or concealed by plating which has welled up inside of the D. I posted this before but didn't receive any conclusive thoughts on it.

When commenting, feel free to refer to them by the abbreviation I provided.

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 Posted 04/25/2008  11:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NGiles to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm going to first state that I am not an expert in any of these coins. That being said I can still offer my oppinion.

F1- I believe is due to contact with some chemical. The surface appears pitted in the pictures, so I am guessing something acidic.

F2- It looks to me like Machine Doubling.

F3- This one looks like typical die wear.

F4- Again this looks like MD.

F5- This is a very nice example of a Die clash. This happens to dies if they strike together without a coin in the machine. Coins that are struck after this happens look like yours. Yes, I believe this increases the value. It would atleast if it were a silver dollar which is what I collect.

F6- This looks like some die wear on the back side of the D, the lower right portion I believe is zinc corrosion, or what I call bubbling.

F7- This looks like a RPMM to me, but I have said that in the past only to be corrected by the Pro's. I can check my answers against theirs later. I would be excited about this one also.


F5 and F7 are my top picks. Nice finds!
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Hi,
1. acid dipped
2. machine doubled
3. Die Deterioration
4. Die Deterioration
5. die clash
6. looks like RPM to the west
7. I want to see a picture of the words TRUST and the word LIBERTY, It could be a minor doubled die. I see what looks like grooves on the 1 and the 9 also an extended lower right loop of the 8. Also a very light line of what could be doubling on the bust. There are DDOs with similar characteristics on 1983, 1984, 1984 D and 1985 cents.

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Bill
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 Posted 04/26/2008  11:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add seattleMD to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm out visiting a college w/ my GF, but will take some additional photos as requested of #7 when I get back.
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 Posted 04/27/2008  06:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add j_h_s to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
85 strike through
86 RPM
That's my take.
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The 1985 is definitely a die clash. Bill hit all of them correctly.
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I think when Chuck takes a look that he will probably concur.

In any case, The LIBERTY indicates what I had thought. You have a doubled die there. It is only barely discernible on the UST of TRUST and that is what I would have expected. It is visible on LIBERTY the DATE and the faintly on the lower part of Lincoln's bust.

It does not appear to be the one as seen on coppercoins site for the 1987 D cents.

It might be a known die variety but it could be something new. It is not a major Doubled die but it does add to the knowledge base of these types of die varieties.

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Bill
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 Posted 04/29/2008  12:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add seattleMD to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks everyone for your help in identifying these! Is there somewhere I should consider sending the 1986D to have in cataloged if it is a new DDO variety?
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I'm not seeing evidence of DD
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I see no evidence of hub doubling on #7. Just looks like a normal coin. What is it you're seeing Bill?
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 Posted 04/29/2008  11:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add seattleMD to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think it's most clear on this image...

http://bp3.blogger.com/__Qb5KfIO48A...7_165414.jpg

I see what appears to be vertical breaks in the serif - I assume that's what Bill is seeing as well.
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I have to go out for a bit when I get back I'll take an image from seattle MD and put some arrows on it.

I see a small spread with notches and grooves, most easily seen on the L the I (notches upper left and lower right) and the R (grooves , especially the leg, notch on the lower right portion of the R as well as a groove. The T of LIBERTY has a groove and a notch on the lower right. I see minor grooves on the 1 and 9 of the date, (the earlier pictures) and I see very minor and slight doubling on the UST of TRUST. It is similar to some of the DDOs I have on 1983 cents.
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