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Thinking about buying this coin. It's graded but I want to see what the pros here think about it before revealing grade - hope that's okay. I'm very new so not sure if the discoloration on the obverse is considered toning or not. Thanks a lot for any help on this.   |
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Bedrock of the Community
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IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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Bedrock of the Community
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I'll go XF45 just making it with details but it is a pretty nice looking coin for a low mintage date & mm.
They don't go cheap do they?
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Thanks, keep 'em coming, it's very helpful. I'll show slabbed grade and price soon. Will be very interested in comments after that.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Oh and the gold streaks are perhaps an alloy mix. Streaks of copper in the copper nickel alloy.
There is some light toning too but I think it will stay as it is in that holder.
It is nicer than mine, that's for sure.
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I'll go XF45 just making it with details but it is a pretty nice looking coin for a low mintage date & mm.
They don't go cheap do they? They sure don't. In fact it was discrepancy between Greysheet/Coinfacts and the price that initially caught my attention. I'm starting to understand. As a noob, it sure is good to get this kind of help. |
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Quoting something I found by David Hall Quote:The 1925-S is somewhat scarce in lower circulated grades, but higher grade circulated examples are much tougher to find. This issue is rare in mint state and extremely rare in Gem condition. In fact, it is the third rarest Buffalo in Gem condition (non-variety), barely trailing the 1920-S and 1926-S. All three of those issues are super hard to find in Gem MS65 condition and all but impossible to find in grades above MS65. Strike can be a major problem with the 1925-S as many mint state examples have very weakly struck Buffalo horn and tail and Indian hair braid detail. Luster is of the subdued frosty type. This is one of the key dates in the Buffalo nickel series. http://www.PCGScoinfacts.com/Coin/Detail/3956 |
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I bought The Official Red Book
A Guide Book of Buffalo and Jefferson nickels
by Q David Bowers
and it is very helpful. If you are working on a set, and apparently full horn or better by the looks of things, I suggest you investigate the series by date and mint before dropping money on them. You can even learn to cherry pick unusually underpriced coins that are above average in strike and eye appeal for coins that carry the same grade and price tag. This is a tough series but fun to learn and I am not a pro. No way. Not in Buffs but I have a complete set less the overdates. |
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If you are working on a set... Believe it or not, I just ordered my first copy of the (main?) Red Book on Tuesday. That's the one for all coins, I guess. I will definitely grab this if the Buffs become a pursuit for me.. .which I think they might. There's something about them for sure. |
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May as well post this now since I see a trend emerging. An older holder in which I would expect to see less overgrading... I think? But this is selling at a discount to what it should sell for, and it's now pretty clear why. Consensus here is definitely not AU55.  |
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Wowzer - Oh jeepers, don't take my opinion too seriously. What you think it's worth is most important.
Buy the coin and not the slab that says it's this or that grade. It's a nice one alright but there's probably a big difference between XF45 and AU55 prices. Don't bail out on my/our estimates.
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132249162056Look at this mushy detailed AU58 with a CAC sticker too. The one you were looking at had superior strike but that's the whole thing with these. They have their quirks by date and mintmark. Do your homework and buy what grabs ya. Best of luck.
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Well here's the thing... first off, I'm sure your opinion counts for a lot. You're The Nickel Guy and you have 5000+ posts here so you know a thing or two about coins, no doubt.
I searched auction histories for examples of AU55...and what I saw surprised me a bit. I saw some coins that weren't significantly nicer than this. So the low price on this one still seemed to be legit in some way.
However, I did see a couple that were clearly better.
All of this just confirms what I've been seeing in my beginner coin viewing. You can have 5 coins in 5 holders with the same grade and be looking at pretty significant differences. I'm really starting to figure out what you mean by 'Buy the coin, not the holder' and the prices I see being paid at auction reflect that. I found a Buff in Coinfacts the other day that the Price Guide said was $300, and there were several coins in the 'Auction Results' column selling for around that, and then there was one that sold for $1200. I thought it was a mistake, until I clicked through and saw the coin. An incredible example, obviously misgraded.
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Look at this mushy detailed AU58 with a CAC sticker too. Wait, what? With a CAC sticker? Oh man...that's hard to believe right there. Okay, thanks for that. I'll post here if I end up buying this coin. |
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