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Grade This 1866 3 Cent Nickel With Part Of Of Letter "D" In United Missing?

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Is this a common die error? On the PCGS Photograde app n my phone (downloaded from Google Play Store), the AU-50 grade of this coin (theirs is an 1869) has the exact same error on the "D". Pretty good die crack on the reverse as well
What's your grade of this coin?

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If you are asking for a grade, please put it in a grading section.
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There appears to be some traces of luster but I couldn't go higher than VF30.
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VF-25 and filled portions of lettering on these is quite common.
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Vf25, light corrosion(?)
Might just be your pictures.
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with VF-25. The early nickel coins, both the 3 Cent and the Shield nickel had harder planchets and quickly caused the dies to deteriorate.

It is sometimes more difficult to find one of those types, especially for the earliest dates, that doesn't show die problems.
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Agree, VF-25.
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I'm going to go against the others and grade this AU-50. It's a nice original coin with some underlying luster.

These are some of the hardest coins to grade because of the strike quality. The reverse has central weakness but the wreath leaves show great detail. This isn't wear. Same with the obverse. Central hair detail is also weak but it has a nice round cheek and strong full rims. This seems like a nice coin but it's hard to grade it with the weak strike.
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VF20 details, light porosity/env. dmg., clashed obverse/reverse dies with cracks and chips.

I must respectfully disagree that there is any way this coin comes near AU. It is evenly worn across all surfaces, displaying weakness centrally and peripherally, with die subsidence especially notable on the obverse above the bust and correspondingly the reverse at the wreath bow. A small loss of detail may be accounted for by the subsidence but most of the flatness of this coin is simply circulation wear, in my opinion, not a weak strike/improper die spacing.

Leaves are close to flat and lack central detail, hair is almost entirely flat with little detail, ear is almost gone.
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VF-30.
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This coin was graded AU-50 by PCGS. It's the same variety and it's missing it's ear too. It's a weak strike not wear. The OP's coin looks better imo. The coin's value is $40-$45 in VF or AU so it kind of a moot point in that regard.

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Thanks for all of the replies and apologies for posting in the wrong section initially. I took the coin out of the holder to get a couple of "better" shots, along with adjusted exposure and gamma in Photoshop to bring out more detail at the expense of the actual look of the coin in hand. Yes either way the coin isn't worth much money, but the strike and wear variances, along with the deterioration really makes it an interesting and challenging coin to photograph. The coin is as gray as a battleship but in side light you can see silver shimmer through, quite beautiful actually. Not asking for a regrade lol.
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Out of curiosity (and with no intent to hijack a thread), chester -- how would you grade this heavily clashed 1881? I graded it AU50. It is not slabbed.

I see your point about the strike issues with your PCGS example.

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