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Mailing Coins To USA From Canada

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In the past I have mailed single coins to U.S. in 2x2s with no documentation attached to the envelope.

I need to send a coin in a slab to U.S. from Canada so it is a little thicker. Assuming I put on the right postage for the weight/size, do I need to attach any kind of customs form or list of content and value? It would be going as a letter I would think. It is an ebay sale.
I hate to draw attention to the fact that there is a coin in there.
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 Posted 08/07/2017  11:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DBM to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
By law you must declare it.
Even the ones in 2x2's.
You can be creative in your description.
But no one here will advise anything illegal.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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And of course, it's not like they can't see inside the package using a X-ray machine.
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Call it a "numismatic item". Truthful and hides the contents from casual observer.
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Do I list the value as the actual price the buyer paid?
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No. List the FMV.
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I have used "hobby supplies" a lot in the past, using the numismatic item term may tip off someone. I would use a bubble wrap mailer with the slab taped to thick cardboard inside the mailer.
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I have used the term "planchets" when mailing coins and never had a problem.
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Using a non-personal name for the address is wise also. Such as John's Mechanical, c/o (your name).
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Hobby Supplies, always seem to work for me.
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I always use "numismatic item." Have never had a problem.
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Thanks for the feedback - I went with hobby supplies.
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Absolutely the wrong thing to do . You did not declare the item properly by saying "hobby supplies".
Although unlikely it could be seized and forfeited to the CBP as a falsely declared item.
Coins of numismatic interest comes under US Tariff Code 9705.00.00.60 . There is no duty on coins and you can ship a numismatic coin up to $ 800.00 USD with no problems as far as US Customs goes. You cannot ship coins from certain countries such as Cuba , North Korea , and a few others as it is considered under trading with the enemies act.
Any numismatic items over $800 USD can also be shipped with a bit more paper work involved but still absolutely no problems if you declare properly.
We deal in person with US Customs twice a week , as we ship all of our US ebay sales from WA State . We always have our paperwork in order and have NEVER had an issue.
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When I send a slab, I describe the item on the customs form as:

"One metallic disc in a plastic frame".

X-ray it all they want and that's what they'll see.......no problems then.
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Pacific, the no tax numismatic coins below $800usd, does that apply importing to Canada as well? Recently got a large tax bill on a morgan shipment and was not happy. Nothing surprises me with CBSA though, my last 1 oz 9999 gold bar cost me an additional 215 dollars in tax simply because the seller did not put a code in and they decided to help themselves to my money. 5 hours of my time and 3 months and still no closer
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Thrustie, on the Gold bar you should be able to recover that through the CBSA appeals process. If you live in or near a major city with a CBSA office , ask for a supervisor and have all your documentation in order .
Did it in Victoria a couple of times and got a refund fairly quickly.
On the Morgan shipment GST/HST and PST totally applies sorry. The de minimus in Canada is 20.00 dollars CAD.
I feel your pain we just paid a stupid Customs fee on a Collection from the US. Only difference is we get an ITC for the GST paid as a business.
Good luck!
As an aside it seems that almost everything from the US gets stopped and tagged! Stuff from Europe and the UK slides right through. We just received a Dix Noonan Webb auction lot ( declared on the package at over 1100 pounds ) came right through!
No consistency at all from our border crew!
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