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1964 Jefferson Nickel Stretch Marks?

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 Posted 04/29/2008  9:19 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add xshift to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi again All,

Does anyone know what's up with the date on this, and the 'stretch marks'? They are all over the coin in varying degrees.

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Close up:

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Thanks!
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 Posted 04/29/2008  9:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I believe those are flow marks. Metal pressed at high pressure behaves like a liquid and creates those. They could also be polish lines where the die was polished somewhat roughly and put back into service.
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 Posted 04/29/2008  9:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KurtS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I also think it's evidence of a well-worn die
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 Posted 04/29/2008  9:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bmanofnbc to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What is that on TJ's face? a die clash?
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The marks on his cheek? I can't tell for sure.. they look like big scratches to me, but they have the same marks around them as the rest of the coin.

That's kinda cool about the flow marks (sounds better than stretch marks, too ;P). Poor guy has them all over.. in his hair, on his nose, on his neck where that big mark is.. all over the reverse, as well. Would the flow marks have worn away if it was circulated?

Reverse:
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 Posted 06/24/2008  11:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TNG to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice 64D to show about 4 steps. Billions were made so to have a 64 or 64D with any steps IMO is a keeper. Not your everyday strike. I see some doubling inside the 6 if that is what you are talking about but it is most likely Mechanical Doubling and not a listed double die as far as I know.
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The metal flowing across the face of the die erodes these lines and they'll get deeper as the die continues in production. They normally appear in areas which have the greatest amount of metal movement first so they can provide a lot of insight into what happens during the strike. They won't be quite the same on coins from different worn dies because the dies are adjusted a little differently and are used a little differently. There can also be slight variations in metal strenght across the face of a die.

The reverse on that coin is most unusual for the date. It appears a little PL which isn't often seen on the date.
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