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1908 Large Cent Large Over Small Legend: Why You're Seeing More Of Me In Canadian

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 Posted 08/18/2017  11:23 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I've been pretty much US-centric in my numismatic efforts, but over the last few months I've begun concentrating on Canadian Large Cents. The ultimate goal is a Mint State set of them in RB-ish - Red examples are well beyond my budget - with a preference towards "woody" examples, but along the way my fascination with errors and varieties has somewhat derailed me. As usual.

The coin presented here is exemplary of both. Those of you who subscribe to the CN Journal will recognize it as the cover coin of the June issue, the 1908 "Large over Small Legend" variety. The images offered here are the exact ones depicted in the June CN Journal. I am not the discoverer of this variety, but it seems that there are only three currently known, this being the only Mint State example. I have it at 63RB-ish.

For those wishing to search for another in the wild, I believe the easiest pickups will be the extensions to the lower right of the R in GRATIA and lower left of the X in REX, followed by those in both A's of GRATIA and the R in REX. Good hunting!

1908-Large-Cent-Large-Over-Small-Legend:-Why-You're-Seeing-More-Of-Me-In-Canadian

1908-Large-Cent-Large-Over-Small-Legend:-Why-You're-Seeing-More-Of-Me-In-Canadian

1908-Large-Cent-Large-Over-Small-Legend:-Why-You're-Seeing-More-Of-Me-In-Canadian

1908-Large-Cent-Large-Over-Small-Legend:-Why-You're-Seeing-More-Of-Me-In-Canadian


1908-Large-Cent-Large-Over-Small-Legend:-Why-You're-Seeing-More-Of-Me-In-Canadian

1908-Large-Cent-Large-Over-Small-Legend:-Why-You're-Seeing-More-Of-Me-In-Canadian

For those who wish to see the collection in progress, you will find it here:

http://www.coincommunity.org/galler...p?album=1922
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Canadian large cents are a great series to collect. I am another U.S. collector that has gotten hooked on them. I think they will get more and more popular as people discover all the great varieties available.

To me, the ultimate challenge is the Provincial cents of 1858-1859. They are like the Canadian version of the Sheldon early date large cent series. There are some similarities. There are a similar number of die pairs. They were distributed over a similar number of years (although the Canadian cents only carried two dates).

The biggest difference is that Canadian Provincial cents are still available in my price range, and rare varieties can still be found unattributed. Even new varieties are still being discovered.

Between Rob Turner's books and Jim Haxby's online Catalog The resources are there to identify all the known Provincial cent die pairs.

The later Dominion large cents have a lot of great varieties also, but they haven't been as fully documented as the Provincial cents.

Enjoy them SsuperDdave! They are loads of fun!

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SsuperDdave,

I did see your coin in the June CN Journal. Very very nice!I which I would have one like that.

I agree 100% with Phil310. Large cents are a lot of fun.
Here is one 1908 that I acquired over 25 years ago and I don't know if it was cleaned at on time? I don't know who would of cleaned a coin like this? It has a matte finish to it! No shine. Very high grade coin but...

Here is a picture of it.


1908-Large-Cent-Large-Over-Small-Legend:-Why-You're-Seeing-More-Of-Me-In-Canadian

1908-Large-Cent-Large-Over-Small-Legend:-Why-You're-Seeing-More-Of-Me-In-Canadian

Enjoy!

MG
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Thanks for this great input SsuperDave...we'll surely be looking ..

Could that viper 08 be a specimen that was lacquered..?

..and are we seeing very fine reeding at the top of this same 08..?

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The lion's share of numismatic interest in Canadian large cents lies in the Victorian series, I am really pleased to see you have taken an interest in the Edward VII and George V series. In time, I have no doubt that you will discover more varieties in those series'...

I think that 1908 variety has found a perfect home, in your collection...
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Viper....is your coin cleaned or lacquered?

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Quote:
Could that viper 08 be a specimen that was lacquered..?


DEVLEC, I always though so to, but I don't know enough to be sure

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Quote:

Could that viper 08 be a specimen that was lacquered..?


One way would be to post a similar sized photos of a known 08 specimen cent and compare the fine leaf and legend details..

That reverse of yours is certainly smooth and very flat..as a starter..
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Sorry DEVLEC I did not read your post before posting mine. Looks like a potential specimen to me. Bust detail is very strong.

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Yes, this is a specimen. I've seen quite a few. They were officially lacquered and toning streaks where the lacquer didn't quite cover are a commonly-encountered feature.
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