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1858 Flying Eagle Cent Large Letters

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Picked this up today. Loved the hammer strike on both sides. Seller had three sets of pictures that were quite different. Tough to determine color and luster on these pics. Thoughts on grade and problems appreciated. Thanks!

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Nizzzzzaacee!. Love to have that in my collection. Got a beauty. Strong strike it seems, looks original on obverse, am I seeing hairlines on reverse?
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She's a beauty for sure!! Very nice acquisition.
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Easily mint state
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am I seeing hairlines on reverse?


I see the hairlines on the reverse below "CENT," but the seller doesn't mention these. Instead the seller says that there are some hairlines in the left obverse. It wasn't immediately apparent from the pictures but there is a long line that spears the wing and neck of the eagle and runs vertically the entire length of the coin. There are also two other lines that run vertically below the beak of the eagle. These can be seen best in the third picture without glare. Will have to inspect carefully when in hand.

Any shots at grade?
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Nicely struck and the color looks good to me. The obverse has a bit of a polished appearance in some images. Otherwise it looks MS63 which is a $1,000 coin?!
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Unc details cleaned from the first pic of the obverse, MS61 from the second.

The lighting really throws me off.

A beauty in any case!
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Those are three drastically different photo sets. As displayed, I'm thinking it will exaggerate the smallest potential problems. First set had me immediately thinking cleaned, although not on the next two sets.

For the sake of a conservative opinion, I'd say Uncirculated, details, cleaned.

Still a huge bit better than most. Congratulations.
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MS details, cleaned. Most obvious in the first two photos.
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MS Details cleaned
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Low MS. maybe 61 or 62. lightly cleaned but I dont think it would keep it from getting a straight grade. nice coin
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Agree, 62 and market acceptable,
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I would think MS-63, but with no call on surface originality.
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Wow! I was bidding on that one but dropped out early. If you send it in let us know how it turns out.
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Any hairlines on this coin are an incidental scrape against something; you would not arrive at surfaces of such complete consistency with a coin that needed cleaned unless you spent half an hour brushing it in which case it'd be rather more obvious. The surfaces might be adjudicated scratches, but in my opinion "cleaning" is out of the question.

It has a shot at 63.
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