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Seated Liberty $1 No Motto Grade Opinion

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This one looks nice. What do you grade it at?
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 Posted 08/27/2017  5:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismatic student to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
au58. A beauty.
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AU-50 would be my opinion. Nice coin!
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Absolutely lovely. As nice as you could find and still stay out of the Mongo money price range.

AU-58 slider. Love it.
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It is a sharp strike, indeed, especially the reverse, but the luster is only faintly visible, limiting my upper grade to XF45. A TPG might venture forth with AU50.
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Tough call, because paralyse's point about luster is relevant. Apparently less-so to the TPGs than to stricter collectors, though, because they seem to offer AU grades to lusterless examples with regularity.

Very difficult date in higher grade, mintage of only 20,000, with technical detail well into AU territory. Unlikely a counterfeit, because 1844 specifically has some pretty unique identifiers which would be near-impossible to fake convincingly and they are visible on this coin. The surface color is a bit homogeneous for me to be completely comfortable with its' originality, but I'm prepared to believe this "look" more with Seated dollars than some other issues.

In all, I'd be surprised if this coin could be had for much less than $1200.
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I saw this on ebay earlier today, it was with one bid at $600. No clue how much it ended for.
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I'd guess AU53 from these images. It hammered at $903 on ebay which sounds low assuming it's problem-free as it appears.
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AU-55.
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Did you get it? I would have pounced on it had I the money. I saw it as well and silently cursed my lack of funds.
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AU-55, very nice SL$
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AU53 maybe 55
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I bid a bit too early, my max was $800. I dont like purchasing raw trade or Seated dollars due to the counterfeits. It finished in the 900s. Assuming no problems, a good buy to whoever got it!
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Seems odd a coin of this caliber isn't in a slab.
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The coin brought a healthy price for a raw coin. The coin is not in a slab because it will not straight grade IMO.
Why would a dealer leave a $1,000 plus on the table by not having the coin certified?
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