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Valued Member
Canada
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The values of Edward coins of the Straits Settlements is critical to value, yet I am not competent and grading companies are too expensive. I would be enormously grateful if a member would hazard an informed guess at the grade of this 1902 ten cents Michael367   |
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 United States
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Rest in Peace
United States
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I'd be very close to that at F-15. It has the dull look of an over dipped coin. You have to have the coin in hand to determine that on coins graded less than medium level VF.
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Bedrock of the Community
Canada
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There are not many details on the reverse to use for grading, so luckily there is a portrait on the other side. On the face, there is a lot of wear. The beads on the crown and details in the clothing are all blending into the design, as is the top of the ear. I cannot see this coin making a VF grade, but there does not look to be enough wear to take this below F. I would be at F-12.
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United Kingdom
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I'd agree with the other - fine.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Not sure how one could be dialed in enough to know that grade is key to price when dealing with Straits Sett. pieces... and yet not realize the grade of this piece is "not nearly worth asking about"...
This is barely above a melt value piece.
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United States
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Not sure how one could be dialed in enough to know that grade is key to price when dealing with Straits Sett. pieces... and yet not realize the grade of this piece is "not nearly worth asking about"...
This is barely above a melt value piece If you have one of these, that looks like this...I'll buy at twice melt...where do I sent the $2.50 And I think it is quite easy to know the valuation fluctuation and not be able to grade it accurately. Krause shows you a huge difference in values so knowing where it sits on the grading scale is the key. Reading a catalog form value ranges takes little insight, asking for help take a great deal more |
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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With Straits Settlements coins in less than uncirculated condition, it is far easier to grade them by focusing almost all of your attention to the obverse side.
The reason for this is due to the fact with the reverse side, all of the high points of the design seem to be of the same height above the fields. Together with the rim, they mutually protect the reverse of the coin.
For this reason, split grading of Straits Settlements is common.
The obverse high points are far and fewer in between, but more importantly, they are of variable height above the field. With the obverse, these high points are the ones that the grader should concentrate on.
The high points include:
the coronet of Victoria,
her cheek
high point of her hair
orb on the top of the crown
beard, eyebrow, and moustache detail
regalia detail on the king's shoulder and chest
high points on the ear.
It is critical to grade the earlier Straits Settlements accurately, because of the much higher prices of these coins in higher grades.
Split grade with this one also,
VG / gF (British grading)
I tend to leave Sheldon grading to U.S. coins only, except for MS+ coins.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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OK, I see the disconnect now... In the real world, Straits Sett. pieces DO start jumping exponentially when you get to AU... then up through better UNC grades. I suppose that happens for most series, but my observation is that is pronounced here (Chinese/Asian money in play here). I wasn't aware that "(condition) is critical to value", while in fact correct for HIGH grades in reality, was solely derived from "uh, I'm looking in Krause and this is what it says". Just checked those KM cat values via NGC's site and, heavens to Betsy, I nearly wet myself from the chortling. It's a shame that the opioid epidemic has apparently also taken hold of our nation's world coin market valuation curators. VF is $28? XF is $150?! Wowsers!! Gotta start keeping my eyes peeled! Oh, wait... never mind: https://coins.ha.com/itm/straits-se...ption-071515https://coins.ha.com/itm/straits-se...ption-071515and always remember when using ebay Completed Search... SOLD items stay in the results longer... so it's not really the truest picture: https://www.ebay.com/sch/Coins-Pape...lete=1&rt=nc |
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United Kingdom
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Apologies, if this is slightly off-topic but what is the difference between ebay Completed Listings and Sold Listings ? |
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United States
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Sold is sold, Completed are ended without sales, such as Buy It Now listings for 30 days or similar that fetched no buyers.
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