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1893-S Morgan Dollar, Please Grade This And Verify If Fake

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I don't think this is fake also because by a VAM point of view date seeems to be far and 3 seems to be slightly high.

So please help me to confirm if this is not fake and eventually please give opinion on grade

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I would not depend on ANYONE here to verify that coin from your pictures, even as good as they are.
If it's legit AND original you have a coin worth in the $2000-3000 range.
Send it to a TPG (NGC or PCGS).
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Opinions here will be all over the map....from authenticity to grade opinion you will not know for sure what you have until you get it checked by TPG.

Besides, to be marketable and bring full money, it will need to be third party graded.

From the pics it looks real and would grade F-12. The old light cleaning looks market acceptable.

Good luck!!
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This is a coin which has been given the most intense effort on the part of counterfeiters, and cannot be authenticated without high magnification for the smallest of pickups. If you cannot examine this coin with appropriate magnification, do not buy it.

Yes, the date and mint mark seem correct for one of the varieties, and if real it is in the VG8-10 range, with a retail value somewhat over US$2000.

It may just be the particular tint of these images, but it looks to be suffering a PVC plasticizer attack, and would need immediate treatment with acetone.

Use the small scratches listed at VAMworld as your guide:

http://www.vamworld.com/1893-S+VAMs
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vg10. No call on authenticity.
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Use the die markers superdave gave you the bunny ears marks and there should be a die mark in the T in Liberty I believe
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Thanks all
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It looks like it might just make F-12, but I shall make no call on authenticity.
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The coin itself appears authentic, but the date and mintmark could very well not be.
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