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Session 1 - starting on page 43, lots 752-891 http://www.torontocoinexpo.ca/docum...ion-1-lr.pdfLooks like a lot of stuff from one of our own forum members... the price estimates are very optimistic, and the catalogue does not state what the opening bids (reserves) are. I don't know if the Canadian market has matured for this stuff yet, but I wish our CCF member the best of luck with this sale. "Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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I believe you missed the hyphen between the first two words in the title.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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If some of those Vicky LC varieties get even 50% of their estimate, I'll rich (on paper) ... but the owner of them will be even richer. It just goes to show what someone with the time, energy and money can amass by studiously following information posted on the old CCRS site, as well as this and other Canadian coin sites.
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Beautiful Newfoundland coins in the auction! Thankyou for sharing!
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Some interesting coins in there, but unless you guys do it very differently north of the border I fail to understand how variations in date digit placement or clashing amount to added-value "errors." The 1859 "9" varieties are a known quantity, if rather optimistically estimated, but (for example) I'm not sure why I'd be expected to pay "$100-150" - even in CAD - for an AU 1896 "Far 6" when that appellation describes any number of 1896 dies, or "$400-500(!)" for an EF 1881 simply because it's clashed. If I could get 15x retail for a Morgan dollar just because of clashing, I'd own property all over the world.  |
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We'll just say that the prices listed for estimates are filled with the same type optimism that every person that headed for the Klondike had .. and then, sadly, learned the truth. You can't sell a coin to a book or price list .. you have to find someone with a wallet. Anyone with eyes can see that some of those would sell for 10% of what the estimate is listed for... if sold at all. I'm referring to the Canadian Provincial and other decimal coins starting in the 700's. I think that the tokens will sell very well ..they've been hot the last few years.
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09/08/2017 5:08 pm
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Well... unlike the previous TCNC auction that some coins were listed in... the Bells are on icollector, which casts a bigger net in my opinion...
I unfortunately cannot attend this upcoming Expo, but I'll be watching from the internet on icollector...
The spring 2018 catalogue will have the prices realized from this fall 2017 auction, for those who want a record of actual sales.
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PCGS Registry...some of the large cents are new additions to the PCGS Registry and are missing from many of the top collections...
furthermore...many large cent variety coins have problems, scratches, old cleaning, rim nicks, that wouldn't bother some collectors and that ICCS wouldn't even label as a "problem coin"...
most of those variety coins will never make it into a PCGS holder...believe me, I've sent hundreds into PCGS...
higher quality usually doesn't come cheap
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09/08/2017 6:25 pm
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I had to miss this auction... any idea if the popularity of the variety market warmed up enough to see these ones hammered down?
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I just checked icollector, the $110 for the MS-63 German Planchet twoonie is shocking... I have a whole tube full of MS-63 German planchets... I wonder what my PCGS MS-65 German planchets would sell for?
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. I have a whole tube full of MS-63 German planchets.. Would you like to lighten that tube up a bit for some of your "fine feathered friends" ? |
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I had to miss this auction... any idea if the popularity of the variety market warmed up enough to see these ones hammered down?
The Cents - which are my interest - did not do very well. |
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The Canadian Coin Market , which is the interest of many is not doing very well at all!
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The Cents - which are my interest - did not do very well. If a larger net is now being cast (as suggested by SPP) by some auction houses then it might be a proper location to set a "no minimum reserve" and see what these varieties do sell for and then reset the varieties values in the book listings.... It seems that many of the previous varieties listings are now out of whack.. Okie has also mentioned before that many were never properly listed in the first place as to a correct value for the grade and that specific variety. No minimum is the way to go, and then everything sells at the present proper market value.... You see a lot of that in the HA auctions.. |
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To put things in perspective...the 1921 50c did not sell, nor did the 1935 Patenaude $20,000 countermark. The auction was inexplicably held on a Thursday, which did not help. As for starting varieties at "no minimum reserve" to "see what these varieties do sell for"...I encourage anyone with a high end large cent collection, maybe Rob Turner, or Okiecoiner, etc...to put their collections up starting at $1 and "see what happens"...  the variety market is not fully established yet, but progress has been made in the last few years... It's still a struggle just to get SOME varieties attributed properly into hard slabs Edited by canadian-varieties
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