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1881 S Morgan For Grading

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This one just arrived. I paid around $50 for it on ebay from so-so pictures. I was pleasantly surprised when it arrived.

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Nice luster, but I'm not sure what's going on with the surfaces. Almost looks artificially frosted.
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Unquestionable 66 at least. Absolute beauty.

Even though this is the most commonly found high grade Morgan, everyone needs a high grade for their type set at some point if they collect long enough.

I'd give you $60, and pay postage. An instant profit
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I was pleasantly surprised when it arrived.


And rightfully so for the admission cost. I would call it MS67 even with the slight "cabinet friction".
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Solid 66, bet you were surprised! Congrats.
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66 good shot 67
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MS66, a couple of scattered faint hairlines and a nick on the neck are the only flaws I can find on the entire coin, and I look at a LOT of Morgans...
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MS-66.
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PCGS grading gods have deemed this coin worthless. UNC cleaned. Upon receipt in hand again, I agree as there are a few scattered hairlines, but nothing more. It is a brilliant Morgan with almost no marks.
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Ouch! Sorry man. You usually have good luck with your raw purchases.
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Upon receipt in hand again, I agree as there are a few scattered hairlines, but nothing more.


A good example of PCGS' cluelessness and arrogance. Pray tell, how could a "few hairlines" so conclusively clean a coin? Admittedly, the little toning on the coin to me seems rather recent and possibly indicative of a dip, but you don't brush a coin unless there's something to remove and to remove that something so completely (given the pristine surfaces) you'd leave rather more than a "few scattered hairlines."

A genuine hairlining from cleaning would have been obvious to you and anyone else. This is PCGS, knowing better than the rest of us whether they actually do or not.

Rant aside, it is not impossible that they decided the color - and/or lack thereof - indicated a non-contact chemical cleaning. In other words, dipping is only cool when they decide it is.
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Pray tell, how could a "few hairlines" so conclusively clean a coin?


Around DOLLAR it looks like someone lightly used a Q-Tip. That's about it.
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