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Not sure if these have already been discussed, if so, my apologies.

What do you think of these? I guess they are the first US minted palladium coins. My thoughts are I love how they used the Mercury dime design for these. I wish they had fractional versions because I just can't afford full 1 oz coins. Also I'm not very familiar with palladium, does the metal usually look kind of dull and grey or is it just the stock photo?

Here is a link to the APMEX pre-order page:

https://www.apmex.com/product/15202...can-eagle-bu
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Talk about a bullion coin - dull with no eye appeal.
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 Posted 09/21/2017  11:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add moxking to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I especially like the reverse Eagle. But for the price I can buy a seriously nice classic US Coin.

I'm thinking this may be low mintage, considering the few people who invest with this metal.

What is this stuff used for?
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Doing a quick search, it looks like it's mainly used in catalytic converters for car exhaust systems. I would like to see one of these coins in person because I'm not entirely sure if it is meant to look so dull or if what is being shown on APMEX is just a 3D rendering that doesn't quite depict the luster it may have.
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The first photos went up this morning, e.g. http://news.coinupdate.com/first-ph...ullion-coin/

These don't look quite as dull as in the previous mockups and the only other palladium examples I've seen are photos on ebay, which don't look too different from silver. Maybe a little flatter, maybe a little more reflective, photos can be so deceiving.

I really like the obverse -- so nice to see this image in a larger form. The eagle on the back is wonderfully detailed, but I can't help looking at the symbolism of ripping apart an olive branch.

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 Posted 09/21/2017  12:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coin_Operator to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thought the first pics looked like plastic. The newer ones look much better to me. Either way, it's out of my price range!
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I want one in cameo silver but not palladium.
Awesome reverse!
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I agree with TheNickelGuy. I'd absolutely buy a silver one. Unless they make 1/10th OZ palladium, it's out of my price range. For that kind of money, I'd rather buy a 1916-D Mercury dime (in it's cost appropriate condition)....or a $10 Indian gold eagle with money to spare. Don't get me wrong, I do like this design and it is nice to have Palladium as an option for a US coin.
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Ye know, Alpha, I never noticed the significance of the reverse until you mentioned it. And now that you have it's kind of off-putting.

The U.S. eagle shredding the olive branch. Man, I just do not like that. It's kind of amazing that it made it through the design phase. You would have thought SOMEONE would have noticed the symbolism.

But maybe, like me, they were looking at the cool eagle and not seeing what he was really doing.
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@moxking

APMEX has a quick description of the reverse image:

"Reverse: A majestic eagle perched atop a rock along with the weight, purity and $25 face value. This design, also created by Adolph Weinman, has been used since 1907 on the American Institute of Architects' annual Gold Medal"


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Olive branches have to come from somewhere. In previous designs (and in general), I just figured they were just picked up off the ground, or were otherwise detached. Maybe this branch isn't really growing out of the ground and the eagle is just breaking off a smaller piece.

As for the design phase, the original legislation reads, "the reverse shall bear a high-relief version of the reverse design of the 1907 American Institute of Architects medal" (also by Weinman). There's not much leeway in the design phase there -- the problem (if there is one) lies, as it often does, with the legislation. I wonder what their thinking was, besides respecting the designer of both sides of this piece.
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Gorgeous! Bad timing with the QB 1 oz. gold Unicorn coming out at almost the exact same time, but I'll find a way to stretch the coin budget somehow.
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 Posted 09/30/2017  1:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add RobertCramer to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
MINTAGE OF Palladium EAGLE. FIRMS STATE LIMITED mintage of 15,000. Does that mean the firm has 15,000 coin or total for all firms is 15,000?
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http://news.coinupdate.com/american...akes-flight/ -- "On September 25, the Mint reported sales of 15,000 coins to the Authorized Purchasers, but it is not clear if that is all that will be offered, or whether the initial supply is greater than that amount. The Mint has not, to date, announced a sell-out, which seems to suggest more coins will be sold as part of that initial supply."
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I agree with the few that would like one in silver. Palladium? I'll pass, I don't even have any platinum. So far just gold and silver, can't see a good reason to delve into anything else at this time.
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are they going to do proof versions of this?
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