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Strange Lines On Lincolns Vest 1958-D

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Anyone know what causes these lines?
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They kind of look like the lines from the wheat stalks, but it so out of place there, I doubt that's what it is.
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interesting...
i will be looking out for the experts opinions on this one...
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I found a second coin with the same marks. Here are some more pics.
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first two pics are the reverse of each coin, the next three pics are of the 2nd coin I found today.
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There is also this mark at the top of each coin which appear to be a smaller set of lines as well.
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My first thought was a die clash because the lines reminded me of the wheat stalks but the spacing is off and I can't imagine a clash leaving just these marks behind.
My second thought was that they came from polishing, but there aren't any other marks that coalesce with these lines.
and its not a "doubled die"

Thats all I got, any one else have an idea of what it is or isn't?
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Coop, can you just tell me:
"Mitch, that's an amazing find! In all my years of collecting coins I have never seen anything like this!! You should call The Journal and tell them about this!"


Is that too much to ask?
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Will admit I've been a bit perplexed coming up with a definitive cause. Seems for sure scrapes or impressions are on the die.

Not sure if introduced while polishing or handling the die or possible damaged feeder finger reached in there on the die. Maybe another gouge or die dent showing at field level under the "1" next to bust.

Polish marks makes me wonder if other gouges may have been present and then polished off. Thanks, Doug.
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That sounds plausible, something had to damage the die enough to leave those distinct lines. I've never seen a feeder but it that does sound like a possibility.

So I guess Coop doesn't have to lie to me.
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Thinking coop has seen many more things than myself so he my have a better explanation.

Will add I just mentioned feeder as an off the wall scenario. Does not resemble a typical feeder finger scrape.

Normally feeder finger scrapes are found at or close to field level. They also tend to be at an angle. Note: early years they tend to show more straight up and down to the die face.

The area in question starts about field level, then graduates more recessed on the die. Thanks, Doug.
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I agree with die damage, but not because of a clash. Looks like that area on the jacket is close to the fields area. (Slightly below fields) Note the lines appear raised, it fades when the design is lower into the die. So they are die gouges. Possibly from a tool used on the die during polishing damaged that area.
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It most likely is a feeder finger gouging the die but two farout possibilities, could be a faulty ejection mechanism/die clash, or flipped coin imprinted die. I will put @ 95% on door #1. The lines are too concentric and parrallel to be anything other than machine produced.
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I'd imagine if it was damage from a polishing tool there would be more coins with similar damage out there, but if the damage to the die, was caused by a damaged feeder that could explain the uniqueness of this specific type of damage.
I agree that the damage was caused by a machine, its appears to be uniform enough to suggest it wasn't caused by hand.

Thanks guys for all in input.
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