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1962 1¢ WDDR-003 Maybe?

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The description of this coin at http://doubleddie.com/817097.html is "close tripling spread towards the center shows on STATES OF AMERICA"; however, this one also has doubling on E-PLURIBUS UNUM? The Obverse markers appear to be a match (parallel die scratches run SW/NE to the right of the chin) but none of the Reverse markers are present.

Reverse Die Gouges as listed on doubledie.com: Bottom right of the C in AMERICA; to the right of the bottom of the second A in AMERICA; north of the F in the designer's initials; and left of the bottom of the O in ONE.
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I believe it is WDDR-003, but it is an earlier die state than what is shown on the site so it doesn't have the reverse markers.
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Or later die state. I see die flow lines, so it looks to be a LDS example. But the die scratches on the obverse near the jaw are a match. So I feel it is that die number.

Possible match for 1962 DDR-021, 21-R-II-C: (Marker on 'NIT' Looks like a die scratch match, unless I'm seeing things)
http://www.varietyvista.com/01b%20L...2PDDR021.htm
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Here is a close-up of "NITE", I don't see the die scratch so it must have just looked that way without a close-up


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There are several DDRs listed on that Variety Vista site you might check to see if there is a match there already listed?
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COOP, I checked all of them on variety vista and the closest I saw was DDR-013, but -013 doesn't show the notching on E-PLURIBUS UNUM. I am totally stumped
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The numbers can be work sometimes. A nice find though. Is there something going on at Abe's cheek too?
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Cheek is just PMD, I found four of these and the others don't have the damage on the cheek
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Can you post a close-up? From here, it looks like it might be a planchet issue. I have to go now, I'll check back tomorrow if you do.
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Not sure what DDR it is, but that's a great find though. Trust me, I've been there too were I couldn't figure out which listing number it was.
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CoinMasters, here are some close-ups of the cheek. Coin #1 is the coin in the original post. For comparison, Coin #2 is one of the other examples of the same die.

COIN #1
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Thanks Lawest. I'm just interested in coin # 1. I was thinking it might be a Lamination error, that could be on just one coin struck by the die. This picture is not real clear, the one you posted yesterday looks to me like it might be a peeled lam.
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http://doubleddie.com/817097.html
The 5th image shows the obverse die scratches. (E of jaw)

On the other sites, they may consider this to be too minor, or have not had one submitted yet. You might submit you images to Variety vista to see if they view it as too minor? That might be the way to proceed. If they find it is too minor, at least you have a Wexler number for your coin.
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