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Ugly Jefferson Nickels.....what Do You Have?

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These two were so bad I had to share them. Anybody have any comparable?
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 Posted 10/01/2017  7:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mark1959 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
How about a view of the whole coin so we can enjoy all of it's "beauty" ?
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 Posted 10/01/2017  8:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add moxking to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ugly is complimentary.
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 Posted 10/01/2017  8:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wildhare to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here you go!
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 Posted 10/01/2017  8:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mark1959 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If that's a lamination error on the 46-S then that's collectible plus looks like it has a die crack on it too! Your ugly duckling may grow up to be a swan.
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 Posted 10/01/2017  8:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wildhare to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Mark1959....you have me scratching my head now. The lamination error runs rim to rim. Is it a huge die crack...or a large lamination error, or both? Perhaps the experts could chime in on that one.
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Thought it looked like a Lam in your closeup, couldn't tell. But if you notice under the chin, the lamination channel that has flipped over the face. Need a close up all the way down, top to bottom, three shots maybe. Not sure about top to rim, possible continuation of lamination but could also show stress crack too. Yes that's a keeper error for sure.


That 42 needs a righteous burial, literally...dig it up in ten years to see it's progress!

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My first thought was a lamination error on the '46-S as well. I think it's a keeper but would like some angled closeups of the area to be sure, if possible.

I agree that the '42-D is toast.
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More photos......
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Call me crazy,But I think it could be a very cool strike through. Maybe a sliver of metal got on the die.
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Retained, struck through lamination. Planchet was separating prior to strike, lam lifted up from bottom and flipped, then struck. The "line" above head is part of the unseparated lam, not a crack. So yes, indeed cool, rim-rim lam!

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Cool indeed,Crazub0's explanation makes perfect sense.
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I've not read this any place, but I suspect the laminations are on the stock material. The cutting of the blanks may cause some to loosen, but I feel the upset process, loosens the metal. Before/after striking these may fall off and make the coins we are sometimes finding.
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I was wondering the same Coop, how could some of the lams have these effects. My only thought was the rolling out of plate stock prior to planchet cutting. Kinda like rolling out pie dough, pieces wrap on cylinder like foil, then fall back down on plate and go to testing processes. Some may fall off, get brushed off while others after falling on the very heated rolled stock adhere once cooled. Then depending on how stuck the are when struck are knocked off or pushed further into the underlaying planchet. Think this would be such an example?

But then again, this nickel almost has to be a post strike because of fold over and no details stamped...so still have no clue!
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 Posted 10/02/2017  10:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wildhare to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you all ! I knew it was some sort of lamination issue, but your expertise really helped me understand what was going on.
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 Posted 10/03/2017  1:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here is my ugly nickel:
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But it is still a keeper. (nickel struck on cent planchet)
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