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Valued Member
Finland
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2nd Morgan dollar. Hard to get decent pictures but I'll try. How would you grade it?   |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
94367 Posts |
From these pics, looks like a 65. Very nice.
Edited by Coinfrog
10/02/2017 6:31 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1054 Posts |
Good looking coin, I bet a true view of the coin will reveal the colors a little better. For grade, I would be in the AU-55 area. The toning may obscure the true look of the coin, could be a MS61-62.
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Rest in Peace
United States
17900 Posts |
Solid 64. Typical weak strike. Neat natural tone.
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Rest in Peace
United States
10625 Posts |
MS62 if indeed MS. I pondered over AU on it for a bit.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1339 Posts |
I believe the coin is MS, probably 63..
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
12057 Posts |
MS63.
Member ANA - EAC - TNA - SSDC - CCT #890 "Most of the things worth doing in the world had been declared impossible before they were done." -- Louis D. Brandeis |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
94367 Posts |
Where are the flaws on this coin?  |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
12057 Posts |
Above and behind the eye, on the lower cheek southeast of the lips, and to the left of the neckline; left of the forehead appears to be a light diagonal scratch; a couple of hits on the cap above and below the fold. The obverse rim has been slightly flattened @ S1-S2 right of the date.
Why I said MS63 net grade: Start with a base technical wear grade of MS65. I subtract two total points for the flat strike, small nicks and marks that do not significantly distract from eye appeal, and the reddish brown textile toning - which is original to the coin but has aged to the point where luster is entirely compromised. Some collectors may not mind the toning, or the nicks and dings, and would call this a 64 or even a 65, that's why a grade is an opinion and not a verdict.
Of course, I believe in detailed grading. If I want to pretend I'm PCGS or NGC, I'll spend 10-15 seconds looking at it, call it a MS65, and be done.
My philosophy these days is that it's better to grade a little strictly and be pleasantly surprised later on if you slab it, rather than to grade a little loosely and be unpleasantly surprised later on if you slab it.
Member ANA - EAC - TNA - SSDC - CCT #890 "Most of the things worth doing in the world had been declared impossible before they were done." -- Louis D. Brandeis |
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Rest in Peace
United States
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Neither luster nor strike are considered for a technical numeric grade. Luster, especially on the fields, is very helpful in determining a mint state. It is also essential in determining possible cleaning. Strike often makes grading difficult if the high points where rub would show doesn't because of a soft strike. Then, it is the specialist in the type who can confirm a more likely grade. Strike does not change the technical grade but can be indicated by a post numeric assignment, such as FSB for Mercury dimes, FBL for Franklin halves, or FH for Standing Liberty quarters as a few examples. Confusing the indicating particulars of technical grade with a market grade, which is more likely to provide a value range, removes an important step in ranging that potential value. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1339 Posts |
front of ear,area of eye,left of m,front of neck....eagle head to rh wing...rh wing to wreath....enough to make me question grade down from 65.....I would think grading these toned coins without being in hand is +/- a couple points...but, I am a learner here,not a teacher.....
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Bedrock of the Community
Canada
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I am at MS-64 from those pictures.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
11881 Posts |
64
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United States
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