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1830 Capped Bust Half Dollar

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Purchased this for $279. I think that the hairlines allowed me to buy it at this price. There is also a disturbance under the "R" in AMERICA in the reverse. Your thoughts on what that is is also appreciated.

Before I bought it, I was reading a post by SuperDave that related that he cannot stand hairlined coins. I was taken in by the well struck stars and eagle's talons.

Would appreciate your thoughts on grade and problems. Thanks!

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THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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 Posted 10/07/2017  7:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is a cleaned coin which will always carry a "details" label despite a good first look. Not a good purchase IMO.
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10/07/2017 7:37 pm
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Hmmmm...I'm not sold that those are hairlines. They could be striations from the minting process. See how they are mixed in with the stars on the right side of the reverse? I don't think that's hairlines from a cleaning. To be sure there could be hairlines in the left obverse field near the nose but the majority appear to be planchet striations

Personally I like the look of the coin.
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10/07/2017 9:30 pm
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thanks. would you say this coin is au or unc in terms of wear?
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THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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I'd call it AU Details and starting to re-tone pretty nicely. Unless this is a scarce Overton $279 does sound high.
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AU. See the wear on the breasts.
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AU, details, cleaned. It's better than an average example, but the buy price could have netted a lower AU, not details.

I just don't buy details coins any longer. There really is no such thing as a bargain except for the seller that finally unloads a details coin.

The longer most people collect, the less tolerant they are for details or problem coins.
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Quote:
. See the wear on the breasts.


Of course -
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I would think AU-55 from those pictures, with no call on surface originality.
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Au-55 retoned nicely from a harsh cleaning job. The hairlines are too obvious for it to grade straight.
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Thanks for the input. Was able to attribute it as Overton-113 which is R-2 (500-1000).
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THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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Even with the hairlines it's a great looking coin. AU-55 details.
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You got a deal. I would think an UNC details CBHD would be $400-$500.
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Some updated photos using my new setup. Hard to capture the extensive luster on this one.

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IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS
THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
My coin website:https://fairfaxcoins.com
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