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World War I Centennial Silver Dollar Fails To Demonstrate Basic Gun Safety

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All the hubbub about gun (don't know anyone in the military who calls it that, it's either a weapon or a rifle) safety aside, what do you think of the basic design?

Can't say that I loved the designs at first sight, but maybe they'll grow on me. If not, I'll grit my teeth and buy it anyway.
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what do you think of the basic design?


Overall I like it. My only complaint would be the lack of some sort of definition on the right shoulder/side gives an awkward open space in that area. Would have had a better flow if they incorporated something there to define the body more. But overall I am excited for a commem for the first time in a while
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No one has mentioned the reverse of the coin yet.

From the Mint's press release:


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The wire design element continues onto the reverse design, titled "Poppies in the Wire," which features abstract poppies mixed in with barbed wire.


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I know that poppies are associated with WWI, but I tend to think of things like the first use of chemical weapons, machine guns and tanks, and trench warfare before I think of poppies when I think about the "War to end all Wars".


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I was just about to ask about the poppies on the reverse. How are they associated with WWI?
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The poppies gained that from a poem where the start of it referred to them as the first flowers starting to grow again on the soldiers graves. It's a symbolic rememberence thing
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The poppy was associated with the death on the battle field see this site

http://www.worldwar1.com/heritage/rpoppy.htm


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The poppy was eventually adopted by the British and Canadian Legions as the symbol of remembrance of World War One and a means of raising funds for disabled veterans.

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from a poem where the start of it referred to them as the first flowers starting to grow again on the soldiers graves.



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as the symbol of remembrance of World War One and a means of raising funds for disabled veterans.


Cool! Knowing this I really like the reverse now. Was pretty indifferent to it before.

I also agree with TNG that the right shoulder seems a bit off. To me it looks as though his arms are wrapped around a stone monument. Definitely missing some more definition/detail in that area.
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In Flanders fields the poppies grow
Between the crosses, row on row,
That mark our place; and in the sky
The larks, still bravely singing, fly
Scarce heard amid the guns below.

We are the Dead. Short days ago
We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow,
Loved and were loved, and now we lie
In Flanders fields.

Take up our quarrel with the foe:
To you from failing hands we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high.
If ye break faith with us who die
We shall not sleep, though poppies grow
In Flanders fields.

— Lt. Col. John McCrae
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There was a time when the V.F.W. and/or The American Legion would be out on the streets and would ask for a donation and give you a single cloth poppy with a green tape wrapped wire stem and it had a little paper banner on it. I have not seen this for quite a few years. I think they did this around Memorial Day weekend.
Pretty sure it was the V.F.W.
I like the poppies in the barbed wire design. My first impression was that I didn't like the obverse, but if they dress it up some ( which I hope they do ) I think I can begin to appreciate the remembering of those who died in WWI with the commemorative. That eye injury is starting to really make a statement for me.
I just can't figure out the posture of this coin. I will admit, at first I didn't like it but I am beginning to change my mind. Lest we forget.
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I do like the reverse design but, I'm just confused by the obverse.


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That eye injury is starting to really make a statement for me.
I just can't figure out the posture of this coin.


Is that an eye injury or is his eye closed? I can't really wrap my brain around the posture and perspective either. It really looks like disembodied hands holding a rifle and a separate soldier facing right.

I assume it is one soldier, like the description states but, the only reasonable perspective I can think of is if he is lying prone and this is a view from the ground? That would be an odd perspective and otherwise, it seems to be an odd posture. Maybe it's the lack of no visible connection between the man and his arms...
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The poppies gained that from a poem where the start of it referred to them as the first flowers starting to grow again on the soldiers graves. It's a symbolic rememberence thing.


Yes indeed... said poem was actually written by a Canadian during World War I, Lieutenant Colonel John McCrae.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_McCrae

In Canada and most countries in Europe, the poppy is worn on Remembrance Day (Nov 11), or placed on gravestones of the fallen.
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I guess we'll just have to see how it looks after the Mint's engravers do their thing. They may "clean it up" and add/change the elements that have been discussed.

I like the idea behind the coin and will try to get one. My great-uncle served in WWI. He shoed horses and "once in a while carried a rifle" (his words.)
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I guess we'll just have to see how it looks after the Mint's engravers do their thing.
I agree. I am almost always more impressed with the finished coin than I am with the artwork.
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I am almost always more impressed with the finished coin than I am with the artwork.


Me, too, JB
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Have they set a release date yet?
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