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 Posted 10/15/2017  4:01 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add FVRIVS RVFVS to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
As mentioned in my Severus Alexander thread I had my eyes on a beautiful bronze. Unlike many recent pursuits of "the good stuff" I actually won the piece !
Yahoo !!
When the coin arrived I followed my usual routine.
First I swabbed the coin with Blue Ribbon coin preservative. Not much happened. I had the impression that the surface had a 'lacquer' applied to it.
This was once common especially in European collections.
I have even seen some ancients that had catalogue numbers written on them in India ink !

Being somewhat hurried I dropped the piece in acetone and ran out the door to tend to my "duties".
(wife & kids keep me running !)
When I returned the acetone had turned pale green and the coin changed from dark olive greenish to a reddish chocolate brown.

The seller (from whom I have purchased many pieces and have trusted) informed me the coin was sold for a friend who purchased it long ago in Switzerland.
It certainly looks real and I rather prefer the mottled brown color


For several years I have been meaning to send a few select pieces off to David Sear for his learned opinions.
I believe the time has come !

Geta AE Sestertius
Obv. IMP CAES P SEPT GETA PIVS AVG
Laureate bust of Geta right
RV. PONTIF TR P II COS II with S C in exergue
Caracalla and Geta in military attire clasping hands and holding spears crowned by Hercules and Liber
31-2mm 21.86 grams
Sear 7266 155a
Rome AD 210

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I really did not expect to win this coin
I paid a fraction of what I believed it would fetch
I could be getting paranoid in my dotage but .......

Opinions ?
Other than nice portrait I mean

*I would note in this coins favour that while weights of the period vary considerably, if this were a high grade casting the diameter of 32mm milimeters would make the original well over 36mm which seems improbable at best !
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10/15/2017 4:08 pm
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 Posted 10/15/2017  4:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kamnaskires to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Beautiful coin. Looks fine to me, although it's not my collecting area, of course. I suspect you removed an artificial patina that had been applied over a genuine coin.
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 Posted 10/15/2017  5:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Opinions ?
There are no red flags for me, although I have proven myself unable to spot good fakes in the past. Is your main concern the flaked texture on the edge?
"If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb

"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
-----King Adz
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Looks like a nice coin to me. Congratulations on a good win.
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 Posted 10/15/2017  5:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like a nice genuine coin to me.
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I had no qualms either. The fact that I won the auction for a fraction of what I see some dealers asking merely excited my senses.
It the appearance of the acetone that set off my "flamboozle" alarm !
The sellers response and my own knowledge of European collectors fondness for lacquer on ancient bronze quieted me down ........
Once a seed of doubt is planted it can difficult to eliminate completely.
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Unlike the plugged and painted fraud of a Gordian III I bought 6 months ago this on didn't have actual "paint" but something more akin to a stain on its surface. Perhaps they thought it an improvement ?
The reverse might have some scrapping that perhaps they wished to cover.

I shall ask Mssr Sear
In this case I believe it well worth the $50 expense
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 Posted 10/15/2017  10:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Doctorwho2485 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Awesome coin
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 Posted 10/15/2017  11:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Doc, nice to see you back. You haven't been around for a while.
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