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To Conserve Or Not To Conserve, Classic Head Large Cent?

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I recently purchased a nice straight graded PCGS Classic head cent for my 7070. I was going to keep all of my old copper in slabs since they tend to get affected by environmental damage more than other coins. This one has some verdigris on the obverse visible under light. I use verdicare extensively on my copper coins and it always works well. Would you crack it out and apply some verdicare in an attempt to conserve it? Since this coin seems undergraded, I was most likely going to crack it out anyway but I appreciate any input on this matter!
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A straight 10 Classic isn't one I'd mess with.
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Right, leave well enough alone. It's a nice coin!
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I thought that only the TPG can conserve a coin. Collectors are only capable of cleaning!
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If I were going to jailbreak it and put it in an album I would absolutely Verdi Care it. Nice example and I agree nicer than VG.
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It looks VG10 to me, I don't see any surface disturbances that would benefit from Verdi-Care, the copper doesn't look dry. You might inadvertently disturb some older patina and reveal something less attractive underneath. Leave it alone, or crack it and leave it alone.
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Your risks outweigh any potential benefit, even if you did manage to eke a F-12 out of a re-slab, the cleaning could result in a disaster.

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I'm not seeing anything there that warrants cracking it out to use Verdi-Care. I would leave it as is.
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Regrade if you want, but don't mess with it
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Thanks everyone! I plan on one day cracking it out for the album (once I get a new page 1 for my 7070....the coin holes are too big for the large cents and they wind up lopsided). I will refrain from disturbing the coin...you are all right that it may do more harm than good. The top of the hair was my concern
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Good decision. This is a 200-year old coin that has survived with an evenly toned mellow look. I wouldn't disturb it in any way.
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Good decision. This is a 200-year old coin that has survived with an evenly toned mellow look. I wouldn't disturb it in any way.
I agree. Wise to leave it alone.
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I've had many successes removing light verdigris. This coin verdigris I'd describe as a slight annoyance. If it were mine and I had VG money in it, I'd try to remove it. Gently of course. Last week I picked up a nice 1783 Washington cent and it was loaded with verdigris. After removal it's appearance improved dramatically. IMO if you remove dirt, verdigris or other contaminants from a coin's surface without disturbing the original metal it's okay. But yes when you remove contaminants, you may expose something ugly. I can go into detail of how I remove verdigris but that's another post :)
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(once I get a new page 1 for my 7070....the coin holes are too big for the large cents and they wind up lopsided).

A new page won't help. You have to remember these were struck in oen collars and every coin is a slightly different size. So they do an average size on the hole. Some coins will be too big and some will be too small. If it is too small now it will be too small in the new page too.
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Preserve, don't conserve. It's wonderful as is.
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Unfortunately, the verdigris will keep growing in the slab, although at a very slow rate. Crack it out. Let it breathe. An oil will keep the verdigris from "growing". Lightly put a drop or two of oil on the coin with a q-tip, evenly coating the surface. Then wipe off the oil with a clean q-tip. The micro porosity of the copper will hold some oil, even tho the coin appears dry.

Trying to remove the verdigris may result in damaging the coin, lessening the appearance and value.
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