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1979 Cent Cud On The Edge

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 Posted 10/24/2017  9:27 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add yanks21 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
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I'm still new to the errors but I came across this 1979 cent with looks to have a little extra slab of copper on the edge. I'm trying a new picture host so I'm hoping this works.

https://www.use.com/NZLVf
https://www.use.com/NZLXL
https://www.use.com/NZLYh
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 Posted 10/24/2017  9:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Crazyb0 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That's actually a bent over " Rim Fin". This was caused by a slight MAD (misaligned die) NW-SE. The pressure causes a dual rim to form, sometimes stretching the edge up along the collar. Circulation has bent it over. A Cud is actually a portion of the outer edge of the die that has broken off, causing the lacking space to remain un stamped. On the reverse opposite a Cud may show a weakness of strike due to the resultant lack of pressure applied at that area on the opposite die.

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10/24/2017 9:38 pm
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 Posted 10/24/2017  9:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add yanks21 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Crazy, thanks for the info. All the coins I go through I can't say I have seen another one of those. I do have to Cuds that I came across over the last couple of years and I know what you mean about being weak on the reverse. Here is one of them.

https://www.use.com/NZL2D
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That's a really nice Cud. Have you IDed it yet on here?
http://cuds-on-coins.com/
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 Posted 10/24/2017  10:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is a rim Cud. Caused by a breakage of the collar.

http://www.error-ref.com/?s=rim+cud
Not a Die Cud.
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Sorry, just flagging to follow up later if needed. Thanks, Doug.
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 Posted 10/25/2017  10:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add yanks21 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm looking at that Cuds on Coins site and it sure looks like I have a Rim Cud like Coop mentioned.
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Yes, coop is correct, you have a rim Cud. Both coins are nice Cuds.

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A nice example of the type. Certainly worth saving.
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Quote:
This is a rim Cud. Caused by a breakage of the collar.

It is a rim Cud but it is caused by the breakage of the die not the collar.

The rim is created by a small downward "step" around the circumference of the die before it drop. on down to form the neck of the die. Since it is a step down it rises UP on the coin to form the inner and top edges of the rim. The collar creates the outside edge. If that step is chipped on broken away it creates a raised area on the TOP surface of the rim, the rim Cud. This increases the thickness of the coin at that point.

If the collar was broken the Cud would extend outward on the OUTER edge of the rim increasing the DIAMETER of the coin at that point.
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10/25/2017 11:58 am
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Thanks for the correction Gary. You are correct. Great description.
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Wow, thanks for the information everyone. I can't believe I don't find these errors more often the way the process sounds so intricate. It just seems like these should be more common.
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Sorry, just flagging to follow up later if needed.


Was rushing earlier to meet mom at hospital. Conder101 described what I was thinking. Thanks, Doug.
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Gary?
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