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51 Years On And They're Still Circulating!

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 Posted 10/25/2017  12:32 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add coaster to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
My son always keep an eye out for me for anything different going through the till at his work ... this is what turned up yesterday!

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 Posted 10/25/2017  01:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add X2an to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That... is awesome

I thought these were completely extinct from circulation!
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 Posted 10/25/2017  01:44 am  Show Profile   Check spru's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add spru to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Excellent!

A little silver is always good to find for face.
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 Posted 10/25/2017  06:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nevol to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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My son always keep an eye out for me for anything different going through the till at his work
Well done! You've got a good son there too!
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 Posted 10/25/2017  07:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add UltraRant to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Now that's a nice surprise! Definitely keepers!
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 Posted 10/25/2017  07:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oriole to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Pardon my ignorance, but:

1. Are the shillings still legal tender in Australia?
2. If so, for what amount?
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 Posted 10/25/2017  08:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add UltraRant to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
They got demonetized after the introduction of the decimal coinage, which happened in 1966 if I'm not mistaken.

They're still .500 silver, so worth about $1.5 US each in metal content.
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 Posted 10/25/2017  08:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TheCoinDom to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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They got demonetized after the introduction of the decimal coinage


UltraRant, I beg to differ.
If you check on the Royal Australian Mint's FAQ page
(https://www.ramint.gov.au/faq)

You will see this:


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Are the 'Holey Dollar' and 'Dump' coins and pre-decimal coins still legal tender?

The Holey Dollar and Dump are the only Australian coins which have had their 'legal tender' status removed, or been 'demonetised'.
Some coins which are no longer in circulation, such as Australia's pre-decimal coins and the 1 and 2 cent coin are still 'legal tender.'


Anyway, nice find! :) I hope you find more of these.
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 Posted 10/25/2017  08:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add UltraRant to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@DominikWSP Thank you very much! Learned something new today! For my understanding (and not just mine, just check a few entries at numista, for example) they were demonetized. I have quite some pre-decimal Australian coins from junk bin finds, I might try to cash them in one day!
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 Posted 10/25/2017  09:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TheCoinDom to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@UltraRant No problem. I saw the Numista entries, they should be corrected. If you have a Numista account, could you change them please? I might make myself one but if someone already has one to change it, it would be great. I wouldn't cash the coins though, because, well, it's always silver.
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 Posted 10/25/2017  10:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add UltraRant to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I can make a try. I just checked and even smaller 3 and 6 pence were still silver til the end - quite different form what I expected. So then I keep them, as large pennies are just too big and worthless to carry with me.
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 Posted 10/25/2017  7:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gxseries to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Unreal. The oldest coin is actually 61 years old. Most likely accidentally released in circulation.
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 Posted 10/25/2017  9:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Predecimal coins are not "current", but they are still "legal tender", under Section 20(4) of the 1965 Currency Act. Banks will credit your account or exchange them for their decimal equivalents; they are then obliged to return any predecimal coins deposited with them to the Mint for melting. Though one would be foolish to take such coins to the bank, sine the metal value of all predecimal coins far exceeds the face value you'd get. Those shillings are worth 10 Australian cents if you banked them, but you'd get AU$2.00 each right now just for the silver content.

It won't be "still in circulation". Finding a predecimal coin in change is most likely the result of:
- A coin collection getting stolen and spent;
- A jar or other hoard of old coins, mixed decimal and predecimal, getting banked and the coin sorters not noticing it was a predecimal coin.

Predecimal coins are the wrong weight and composition as far as vending machines are concerned, so they won't enter circulation via that route.
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 Posted 10/26/2017  03:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add owatchman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That's an awesome find. I know the machines can tell the difference between the coins, but anybody handling them probably would notice the wight and diameter difference since they're so close. I'm betting these are the result of the coin hoard that Sap mentioned.
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 Posted 10/30/2017  6:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add stevo1962 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Some of you are having trouble with your numbers.The oldest coin is actually 71 yeas old
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The oldest coin is actually 61 years old.


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Some of you are having trouble with your numbers.The oldest coin is actually 71 yeas old

The '51 years' in the heading was actually referring to how long ago the change-over to decimal currency occurred.
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