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I Wish They Minted A Seated Dollar With Arrows And Rays.

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I absolutely love the arrows and rays design. But I'm bummed it was only offered on smaller coins. Does anyone know why the design wasn't minted on slds?

Also, post pics of yours if you got them.
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I think it would be cool if they made arrows and rays on the dollars as well, oh well...
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From NGC

The vast quantities of gold that flooded the eastern United States in the late 1840s had a deleterious effect on the country's silver coins. As the price of the staple coinage metal rose sharply when reckoned in terms of gold dollars, it was not long before speculators started their usual hoarding and/or melting practices. By 1850, there were few coins in circulation between the lowly cent and the gold dollar. In an effort to rectify this grave coinage situation, Mint Director George N. Eckert proposed that Congress lower the weights of the silver coins to ensure that their face value remained above their bullion value. Despite reservations, Congress authorized this plan in the Mint Act of February 21, 1853. The half dollar's new weight was 12.44 grams, a sufficient enough reduction from its former weight of 13.36 grams to ensure that the denomination remained in circulation. To distinguish these new half dollars from their predecessors, Eckert ordered that arrows be placed on either side of the date and rays added around the eagle. With these features, the Philadelphia Mint delivered the first 80,000 examples of its lighter half dollar on May 21. By the end of the year, a respectable total of 3,532,708 specimens were produced by the parent mint alone.

The Seated dollars barely circulated so there was not the same problem of pulling small change out of circulation.
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Which is a real good thing Mike, you wouldn't have anything to collect and drool about! All the earlier dollars woulda been snagged for the melt pot!

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Seated dollars don't need no fancy fixings to make them cool.

But I'd still love to hunt for a arrows and rays if $1200 would land a EF-40.

I checked a hypothetical price list for that dollar amount.
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The face value and bullion value of the dollar coin had to be maintained for international commercial transactions.
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I am glad they did not as it would mean filling three holes in teh 7070 instead of two.
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Yes......They Ain't Cheap!
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Simple answer, the arrows and rays were to indicate the reduced weight. (Just arrows on the Half Dime and dime) The weight of the dollar coin was not reduced so no arrows and rays. And not reducing the weight meant that the silver dollar now had $1.04 worth of silver in it which effectively killed any chance the silver dollar would circulate. (I would think that before about 1850 they probably did circulate and they would have been much preferable to the questionable paper money then in circulation.)
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And not reducing the weight meant that the silver dollar now had $1.04 worth of silver in it which effectively killed any chance the silver dollar would circulate.
Seems that not circulating the dollar coin is in our DNA.
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I bet if they got rid of $1 bills it would kind of be forced to circulate.
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I bet if they got rid of $1 bills it would kind of be forced to circulate.
Yes! Of course, we have been saying that in every modern dollar coin thread since the beginning.
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"What if..."

Not-so-perfect Photoshop quickie using an 1853 50c A&R and an 1876 $1. Obverse looks a bit better than the reverse.

I-Wish-They-Minted-A-Seated-Dollar-With-Arrows-And-Rays.

I-Wish-They-Minted-A-Seated-Dollar-With-Arrows-And-Rays.

Daniel Carr needs to make this happen....
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Not-so-perfect Photoshop quickie using an 1853 50c A&R and an 1876 $1. Obverse looks a bit better than the reverse.
Pretty slick!

I still would hate to have to fill a third hole.


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Daniel Carr needs to make this happen....
I do not think he would do an over-strike on a Seated dollar. Maybe a common Morgan, but then it would not be the same as what he normally does.
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