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Does This 1892-S Morgan Look Authentic

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https://www.ebay.com/itm/1892-S-Mor...302511335477?

I feel this is a counterfeit. Date doesn't look right.

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Not even a remote chance.
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probably not. I don't like how the '1892' looks
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Fake Chinese Morgan ~ no doubt in my mind.
I have posted it in report section eBay Counterfeit Reporting for all Canadian Coins and Currency
as we are asked to.

http://goccf.com/t/299824#299824
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I have notified the seller too.

Thanks all for the confirmation.
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Once the listing gets removed (or it sells and time goes by) this post will be of little educational value. That is, unless you post a photo.
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The price alone should throw up a red flag!
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The date on this one is a dead giveaway that this "coin" is counterfeit.

But pay attention to the fake toning around the portrait and devices, too. This is a well-known characteristic of "circulated" counterfeits from our "friends" across the big western pond!
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have notified the seller too.


Thank you. It is inappropriate to automatically assume all such sellers offer these coins with knowledge and malicious intent.
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Surely a fake.

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Thank you. It is inappropriate to automatically assume all such sellers offer these coins with knowledge and malicious intent.


Well, this text in the description is a text typical of fake sellers (though there is still a chance the seller doesn't know):


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Estate find as found and as shown. I am not a coin expert, but this seems to be in very, very good condition.


A lot of sellers try to justify their selling of fakes by writing 'I don't know what it is identify for yourself, no guarantees given' or similar in the description.
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Too much forgiveness for fake sellers in my opinion. If they are willing to list a coin that is supposed to be a key or semi key date and expect to get hundreds of dollars for it, then they should accept the responsibility to know exactly what they have. There should be a harsh penalty whether they sell knowingly or not.
This would help clean up the fake market. We take the time to identify these fakes and have no horse in the race other than to warn others. Why shouldn't those who stand to take money for this junk get the benefit of the doubt?
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Fuzzy area and virtually impossible to police. Anyway, this is obviously a fake.
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From a quick look at this seller's listings and auction results I can tell he/she's not a coin person and probably does not know this is a Chinese fake.
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@TNG I definitely agree with you. It could be hard though as sometimes these sellers are nearly impossible to locate (on ebay they probably should be easy to locate, but I can't relate that to some other sites of this type...). Unfortunately those fake sellers hugely impact the hobby and reduce the number of new people joining it
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From a quick look at this seller's listings and auction results I can tell he/she's not a coin person and probably does not know this is a Chinese fake.


You never know... Some fake sellers are doing a truly good job hiding what they really do to remove any suspicions an unknowing buyer might have. Note I'm not saying this specifically about this seller but rather in general.
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