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These two 1880 bills have these huge thread lines, one blue, one red all the way across the bills. I know it's in the paper and not considered a flaw but I find it disturbing to the quality of the bills. I've only seen it on these two 1880s. That doesn't mean it isn't elsewhere just I don't have personal experience with it. Anybody know why this is or have such a bill or know if I could expect to see them on other types? I don't own any of these 3 bills, just presented for info purposes but I did own the types. The Hamilton doesn't have any thread lines even though it's also an 1880.    |
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I do not believe them to be thread lines......too straight and too long.
Perhaps something on the scan bed or in the photography.
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Bedrock of the Community
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 Beautiful currency tho! |
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Those red and blue fibers are embedded in the paper. It's an anti-counterfeiting feature that they still use today.
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Well, yeah, they're thread lines because I owned a brown seal $1 and got to examine it close up. At first, I wasn't sure either. Thing is, afterward, an internet check on every sample of that note showed the same thing.
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Ron, I'm not here to argue with you. It's just my opinion that those long straight lines running across the entire note are not security fibers.
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The 10$ note I see on the internet in articles has the exact same serial # as the one you show with the lines. The 1's and 10's on ebay do not have those lines. |
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Here's a One that has them but they look like fold lines on this note but you can bareley see them. Think your pictures show fold lines that have been airbrushed to make the notes look better?  Edited by Mark1959
11/02/2017 4:39 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
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Mark, I can't see any similar horizontal line on this note - maybe it's just my eyes.
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Interesting. Certainly not a security thread as commonly understood. Great pics.
Edited by Coinfrog
11/02/2017 5:06 pm
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I can't see any similar horizontal line on this note You can really see it across his body - enlarge the picture and you can barely see them |
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Last pic. This is a good one, where one can see the entirety of both lines, the red and the blue. I'd like to point out, also, in the 2nd close up, that there are plenty of traditional security threads, those little bits of blue and red, as well.    I've resigned myself to just taking this stuff as part of the attributes of these two series and today I actually ordered another one. |
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Got it, great pics for sure. What's your theory?
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Those red and blue fibers are embedded in the paper. It's an anti-counterfeiting feature that they still use today. According to my Guide Book of United States Currency, 1st Edition, Whitman Publishing, 1993, pg. 11, United States Legal Tender Notes (a collector's item in its own right I'm sure  ) Quote:
The Fourth Series had the greatest number of series, signature and seal changes, and comprised the series of 1869, 1874, 1875, 1878, 1880, 1907 and 1917. ... As a deterrent to counterfeiting, paper with silk threads was used for the first time in all denominations of the 1869 series. |
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Perhaps I misunderstand your point, but we are not talking here about the random vertical red and blue security threads embedded in large currency, but rather the dead-straight horizontal lines apparent in the examples posted.  Edited by Coinfrog
11/02/2017 7:14 pm
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