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Pillar of the Community
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I have a 1880 $1 in A VF35 EPQ holder with the straight horizontal line. I've noticed it, but never really thought about it. Just assumed it was part of the series.
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Pillar of the Community
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My series 1886 notes also have the line. Here's an example from the $10.  |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I have to say, I thought it was something on a scanner bed at first but looking at my National currency note, the reverse has a line on it like these have. Never noticed this before either. You can see a faint line through the forehead on the front and then easily see the rest and it is more obvious on the back at the same latitude.  |
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Interestingly, after taking a look at my 1880 $1&2, they both have the lines as well. They both have the large brown seal. Both notes have done their time in circulation, but the $2 shows hard folds and even tears along the horizontal lines. Could it be that these areas are more prone to damage? I don't know but maybe the BEP used these lines as a counterfeiting detterent but realized they were prone to ripping, hence why they aren't on later notes. Just a hypothesis but very interesting.
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Pillar of the Community
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That's a wild-looking signature on the brownback $5, TNG! It's worth buying the bill just for that.
Do the folks that noticed the lines also see a 2nd line. I.e., one red (top) and one blue (lower)?
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Valued Member
United States
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I do on both of the notes.
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Rest in Peace
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I know nothing of older bills, but just thought are those silk threads? Too straight, would have broken or twisted upon implementation. Seems those lines are inking for some reason. Random security or as noted, ripping and replacement of halves, mint only wanted to pay for one replacement. Weren't the pieces returned to issuing bank?
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Pillar of the Community
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It's a long shot, but I sent an email to the BEPs Historical Research Center asking if they could shed any light on this. In the remote chance that I get a positive response, I'll post it here.
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Pillar of the Community
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I also sent an email to a friend asking about the lines.
His name is Derek and he owns the uspapermoney.info website, he's a great source of information.
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Bedrock of the Community
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This should be interesting.
And for sure that sig on the NBN $5 is a killer.
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Pillar of the Community
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Edited by SteveInTampa
11/03/2017 5:48 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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I use the USPaperMoney.info site all of the time to look stuff up about small size notes, but didn't think to look there for this information on large notes. So, his site confirms that the threads are in the paper, but it doesn't shed much light on why or how they are there, which is the real mystery.
I'm sure Derek knows it, but please pass along that he has a great site, loaded with valuable and interesting information, that is widely used.
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Like Crazyb0 said, if these were just threads they wouldn't be so straight and might unravel, too. When I looked at them up close, I could see that they were extremely tightly woven and darker than just the plain thread. So, I guess they were applied or implanted differently than the regular loose bits.
In factor, when I look more at the chart from USPaperMoney, I see every denomination of the 1880s, from $1 to 100, with Rosecrans-Huston, has those threads.
Edited by ron6788
11/04/2017 11:17 am
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Next step is finding out why they were implemented.
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