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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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the first one looks to me like a weakstrike MS 63
the second has me a bit confused... usually a weakstrike would be because of a concave or convex planchet... this coin shows weekness on both sides in the same are.. the reverse has some strong details in the leaves with some cartwheel fronsting, but the obverse is weak and mushy everywhere.... I would grade the second coin at EF
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Bedrock of the Community
Canada
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Better photos on the first one would be nice but, looks EF to me, the second one I would call, VF-30, it could be a 'light' strike but, looks like too much 'wear' on the crown.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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The focus is "wishy-washy" on both coins here....(ie: please try again..)..but they might both be MS coins..
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Struggle is right. I can easily accept the second example as a weakly-struck higher grade coin, EF or maybe even AU. My instinct on the first would be EF details (cleaned), but my confidence level is quite low.
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Canada
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First one I'd give a nice MS63 weakstrike seems fairly typical to me, MS at the very least lots of orange peel like skin. The second one is more tough very difficult and probably not as hard to tell in hand but for safety I will say AU as it looks it has most of it's luster still intact. Very mushy in the same spots on the obverse and reverse I'd love to see the coin in hand seems very tricky.
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Pillar of the Community
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All I have is the obv of the first coin without plastic available at the moment.  Second coin, again.  
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Canada
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I would say MS62 on the first, and I'm struggling on the second. Fields look cleaner (maybe) but there might be some friction. AU58.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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I think the first one Is a ms64
Second one au58 , or net grade of EF because very weak strike
with the slight possibility they did something really goofy and graded the bottom higher than the top hahaha
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Pillar of the Community
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In the same order Originally graded AU-55 by ICCS and regraded by NGC at MS-63. I don't know who was grading at ICCS in the summer but this particular lot of coins I sent (in which this specific coin was included) was dismally graded.  NGC MS-63 CERT.... https://www.NGCcoin.com/certlookup/2735389-007/63/Graded AU-50 by ICCS which I would say to be fair and accurate 
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Wow, thanks. Please, in the future, wait 48 hours at least before showing results so that everyone can chime in. 
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Quote:
Originally graded AU-55 by ICCS and regraded by NGC at MS-63. Nice nickels, both of them. I had a similar recent experience with ICCS and PCGS with some MS nickels..but my low grades came from the older certs.. _____________ Quote: ... looks EF to me, the second one I would call, VF-30... Very tough to grade from photos and still very hard to grade "in hand"..
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Pillar of the Community
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Early nickels are notoriously difficult to grade because of inconsistently weak strikes. Many instinctively look at the crown band but it tends to be an area often just weakly struck.
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Probably the main reason why I don't stick my neck out online for grading these coins. It is essential to have the coin in hand to ascertain a proper grade.
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Apparently, having the coin in-hand isn't enough for ICCS either. The first nickel is clearly Uncirculated from the photo, and yet they called it AU55.
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