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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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xf-au details cleaned and retoned. looks unnaturally white.
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com
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Rest in Peace
United States
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VF, details, cleaned. Still, it's a great looking coin. Love the obverse bullseye tone. I don't think this would make it through a righteous TPG submission. But if you aren't submitting, it doesn't matter. I would buy this, which is my best review.
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Bedrock of the Community
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EF details, badly cleaned.
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It may well be that the surfaces are cleaned and reflecting too strongly, or it may be that a couple points lower Exposure Compensation would change the look enough to change minds. Honestly, for originality I would expect more of a a "shadowed" look around the stars, with more color progression noted radiating equidistantly from them. This seems maybe cleaned and toned relatively quickly, all at once, with the more homogenous surfaces of a circulated and then cleaned coin toning at an identical rate when an original-surfaces coin should not due to the differing surface crystallization of high- versus low-pressure locations. Not that it isn't a lovely and deserving example, just that if my thoughts were confirmed in-hand I might be persuaded to even things out a bit with some windowsill time.  Edit: Oh, yeah: nice VF, almost XF.
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Valued Member
United States
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I agree with VF cleaned and retoned. Do I see a die clash near the hair curls by her cap?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Love the toning but just about xf cleaned and retoned. Stick it in an album if the price is right.
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Bedrock of the Community
Canada
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Bedrock of the Community
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Mike - Kind of surprised that this coin appealed to you.
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Pillar of the Community
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Edited by MikeF 11/05/2017 9:37 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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IMO, this isn't market acceptable and shouldn't be in a straight grade holder. Heck, I think the EF-40 part was a stretch. Shame on PCGS. Probably leinience provided for a bulk submitter. I know, I'm a conspiracy theororist.
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Pillar of the Community
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So, enjoy the nice toning, it's legit. Were you the buyer, Mike? (If so, I'll give you the Overton variety.) I'd give PCGS the benefit of the doubt, due to their experience and state-of-the-art equipment for detecting such things. The excessive whiteness and scratches on the reverse must just be an overexposed pic.
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Quote: Would you believe me if I told you guys this coin graded straight at xf-40?
Yes, I'd believe it. The image source explains the excessive exposure; this is something both GC and Heritage do as deliberate compromises to illustrate as much technical detail as possible, at the cost of throwing opinions of surface originality off. That latter doesn't matter so much to them, as the coins they're offering are slabbed and the opinion on the slab should stand from their point of view. Both the grade and the price are a bit of a stretch, though.
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