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2017 P Lincoln Cent Help Please. New Pictures

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Ok so I got a box of cents at the bank and I opened it up and they are all 2017 P cents so I crack open my first roll and they all look like this what type of doubling is this? Thanks in advance
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I toned down the lighting
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11/09/2017 09:32 am
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 Posted 11/08/2017  11:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
MD I think because of the shadow like reflection. I'll let the experts chime in on this.
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Going on 3 rolls of every coin being the same thing
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I had thought at first it was a "Squeeze pop" MD, but if multiple coins exhibit the same effect it has to be a compromised die. But how, and what is this. Just massive Die Deterioration and wall collapse of the details? Could this be the result of a mechanical mishap such as the die impacted a feeder mechanism or other part out of sync that caused the die to shatter?

Too many questions, no answers!
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11/09/2017 12:27 am
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I'm with you crazyb0
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I'm going to not search anymore of these cent rolls till we get to the bottom of this because it very well could be the whole box

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11/09/2017 12:40 am
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I have a feeling that it's heavy Die Deterioration.
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Mostly MD and Die Deterioration and you have an issue with glare. If you can filter you light with out setting something on fire, you can diffuse the light source with bond paper, or a plastic grocery bag or tissue paper. When you get rid of glare, then you won't see so much reflection. Also makes it hard to tell what is going on with your coins. Low light close to what you are looking at can help you to see better without the glare.
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These are proof coins. But low light and different directions of light show different things. (the images are proof cents with Machine Doubling, not doubled dies)
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I tried to black out my lights before it didn't work to well but I will definitely try


I am very disappointed that my whole box looks to be DDD


Should I even go through the rolls that are left you think I might find something worth keeping or should I just turn them in?
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I am very disappointed that my whole box looks to be DDD


Hey, at least you got it for face.


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Should I even go through the rolls that are left


Might as well at this point. Who knows what you may find. It's anyone's guess and the cool finds don't follow a trend.
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There are many places where there is clear splitting of the strokes at their ends - last two digits of the date; S in TRUST; RTY in LIBERTY. MD does not separate strokes.

Even though there are also places where it looks like "classic" MD, don't dismiss this as MD yet.
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 Posted 11/19/2017  6:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mrzllewellyn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ok so here's a picture someone took for me of my coin still got the same thoughts? I'm still not positive Thanks
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Every 2016 and 2017 cent I've seen looks just like this unless they've gone flat for some reason (abrasion, dirty, etc). I think it is definitely a result of glare on the pristine surfaces, especially at later die states. As some have suggested on other topics I would try adjusting your scope at an angle and explore alternate light sources on the new BU cents. This happens on new dimes and quarters as well, only worse, at least under my scope.

If you solve the problem I would certainly be interested in what you find out.

Edited for spelling as usual- little phone keyboard and big sausage fingers
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