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1919-? Lincoln Wheat Penny

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Howdy,

any ideas here? At first glance I had thought it to be an "s" but it is not. I could use some advice here please. I will get it looked at locally by a professional, and I have no problem having it graded by as third party. I just want you guys to look at this.

Thank you much.

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It is an S,it's taken a hit and damge has caused the MM to look funny.
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It helps to show pics in the proper orientation. I'll help:

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I think it's a 1919-S and the mintmark took a hit.
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Before you click post, please preview your post/pictures to be sure they are rotated correctly.
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 Posted 11/26/2017  02:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add X9 Mike Honcho to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I will check the photos next time
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Generally, I would agree that the mint make took a hit although this is not one of those times. The thickness of the MM is not great enough to be split in half and then be bent up and flipped onto its reverse side, especially with no signs or evidence of tool marks or stress. I suppose I will wait until Tuesday and have a professional look at it as well. If anyone has an example like this, please share it.

I am physically looking at a few other 1919-S at the moment and I just cannot get my head around this one.

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I would guess that area at the top of the damaged S is depressed a little. Maybe it was stuck by a flat-blade screw driver or a knife, causing the top of the S to press down and also dig up part of the field to make a small line at the top of the S.
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Thanks for the input Fuzzy. It is nice to know how you came to a conclusion by stating what you were thinking.
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So, what do you think it is?

There is only one verified RPM for 1919-S and no OMMs. It could be a broken mintmark punch, I suppose. Hopefully, others will comment because we have professionals here as well.

One thing to consider is the other multiple hits on the obverse. How could the mintmark have escaped the mayhem?
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I do not think that the mint mark took a hit, and your idea of a broken mint mark punch sounds the most logical. That is probably what I will ask when I see my guy on Tuesday and I'll make sure I mentioned it was suggested to me from someone on a forum.

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to CCF. Why would you want to slab a coin worth less than $1 by a TPG? I know you won't believe me either but it does look like the S mint mark took a hit,PSD. I say this WADR and it is only my opinion. Please let us know what your guy says and what his qualifications are.
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just PMD, I wouldn't waste my money sending it to get it graded, stay here and you'll learn to see the difference from PMD vs real error.
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To CCF! It's just PMD (Post Mint Damage) on the mintmark. You should just believe us and the guy you are going to see is going to say the same thing to you. I wouldn't waste my money getting this coin graded. Stay here for awhile and you will learn the difference between PMD vs a legit Mint error.
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Whatever it is, it's definitely not worth TPG fees.



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The S has been hit a couple of times. This coin is barely worth a 2 x 2 let alone a TPG.
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