A Continuing Thread ~ Post Your Tokens, Medals, Exonumia Acquisitions

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Blue struck me as being seen far less often than red. There are letters on these that differ, yours being T and T.

Lots of combinations, what they mean, I don't know, but don't spend a lot of money on a red one. If you are patient, you'll end up with a nice one. If I had one, I'd send it to ya. If I find one I will.

Fantastic followup.

The world is not enough
1559, copper, R2
French, but who issued this jeton (chambers of finance of Dijon or Paris) is a matter of debate



OBV: French coat of arms surrounded by the order of Saint Michel
COMPVTORVM PRO GENTIBVS



REV: Hand holding a globe, flanked by two lilies
NON VNVS SVFFICIT ORBIS
Crowned letter F
1559

The most cited author of French Jetons, Feuardent, describes the coin in his book "Jetons et mereaux depuis Louis IX jusqu'à la fin du Consulat de Bonaparte" under entry 9952. The description of the order of the Toison d'Or (Burgundy) is probably a mistake.

Given the symbols and the hostilities between Spain/Burgundy and France, it is very unlikely that this coin was issued in Dijon (Burgundy) where Philip II of Spain was the new ruler. One would expect the typical coat of arms and motto of Phillip.

One can find easily on the internet that the same NON VNVS SVFFICIT ORBIS was used earlier on a 1515 silver medal in honor of king François I of France. François I was a archrival of Charles V: for the election as emperor of the holy roman empire and for numerous battles in Italy, the battle of Padua being one. Both kings had great ambitions. We all know PLUS ULTRA and the pillars of Gibraltar, the motto of Charles. Francis' motto was NON VNVS SVFFICIT ORBIS. A single world does not suffice. These were the days that the globe was navigated by conquerors in name of Charles and Francis in search for a larger empire. These were the days of long and fierce religious wars.
The two spheres on the 1515 François I medal are intriguing and this medal is a true museum item
http://www.britishmuseum.org/resear...140&partId=1

the idea of a French jeton made in 1559 in Paris would explain the crowned F (of François) and the coat of arms of France (three lilies).

One last interesting link.
Today we are exposed to a new concept: planet earth becoming to small to support the economic expansion of humanity. Scientists publish about planetary boundaries, a safe operating space for mankind to continue a sustainable world. NON VNVS SVFFICIT ORBIS
https://www.nature.com/articles/461472a

Both the 16th century navigation of the world that became smaller every decade and the boundaries that humanity encounters today make this little copper coin symbolic for the challenges we experience on the beautiful planet we hopefully will decide to steer in a good future direction.

Every time I saw one of these I wanted one, now I'll have it!



The Massachusetts Bay Colony (1628-1691) was an English settlement on the east coast of North America in the 17th century around the Massachusetts Bay, the northernmost of the several colonies later reorganized as the Province of Massachusetts Bay.

A dowry is the transfer of parental property to a daughter at her marriage rather than at the owner's death.
A dowry establishes a type of conjugal fund, the nature of which may vary widely. This fund may provide an element of financial security in widowhood or against a negligent husband, and may eventually go to provide for her children.
Dowries may also go toward establishing a marital household, and therefore might include furnishings such as linens and furniture.
The dowry was a custom brought to the United States by colonists from England and elsewhere in Europe.

One legend tells how John Hull, the Master of the Mint in Boston and a wealthy man, determined the dowry for his daughter Hannah's marriage to Samuel Sewall.
Hull is said to have set his 18-year-old daughter onto one side of the large scales in his warehouse. He piled shillings into the other side of the scale until he reached her weight in silver, and that was her dowry.




Nothing to sneeze at being worth your weight in shillings!
Just a tidbit here from my figuring. Let's say John Hulls little daughter Hannah was of a weight of 85 pounds.
A Pine Tree shilling weighed 72 grains, lets say his daughter, ballpark 650,000 grains.
If she sat on one side on a scale it would have taken about 9000 or more Pine Tree Shillings to balance the scale.
The shilling was worth 1/20th of a Reale of 8, so lets divide 9000 by 20 to equal 450 Reales of 8.
I think conservatively she probably was worth around 500 Dollars in 1600's economy.

The average Pine Tree shilling is worth about $5000.00 in XF today, so she would have been worth
$45,000,000.00 in Pine Tree Shillings if those 9000 shillings were saved.
Of course, a hoard of 9000 Pine Tree Shillings suddenly coming onto the numismatic market today would probably drive the prices and values down considerably.
So would you think the buying power of 500 Dollars in the mid 1600's was the better deal?
Naw...
I think it would have been equal to around 100 times $500 or $50,000.00 today.
I'll take the shillings, thank you!

Here's another Strassenbahn token. I have taken what I think are better pics of nearly half of them now. Up today is:

Toppler-Haus




In the 1890's it was touted as Nürnberg's oldest printing and art print establishment. This photo (ca. 1900-1940) shows it to be an unusual and architecturally beautiful building.



Here's another:



The Toplerhaus stood prominently at the Paniersplatz in the castle district of Nuremberg's old town. It was flanked by the Upper and Lower Söldnersgasse, which ended here in the Paniersplatz.

Jakob Wolff the Elder built the house in 1590/91 as a tower-like sandstone quadrangle with Fialengiebel. During the air raid on January 2, 1945, the house burned down and collapsed and the remains were later removed. The post-war building that was created at the same place is a simple functional building without relevance to building history. Here it is:



Quite the demotion in architecture! Wie schade...

thanks for the comment
actually the shape is strange, hammered on the edges it seems




maybe a bit more:
a 8 reales (or taler/dollar/daalder) piece contained about 22,5 grams of silver a little less than an ounce; with impurities you could count 40 pieces in a kilo or 20 in a pound
that means that the amount of pieces of 8 reales needed to match the weight of the 85 pound young lady was 1700 rather than 450


interesting story !
Germany was rebuilt with a new shape; the old was forgotten to some extent. There are thousands of houses that underwent the same fate as the Toppler house and virtually nothing in the big cities in Germany today present in an original pre WWII state.

However, some medieval places in Germany were rebuilt as before; the best example is Rothenburg-ob-der-Tauber, a fantastic place with intact outer and inter city walls, old houses etc not far from Nürnberg, the famous center of rechenpfennig production in the 16th and 17th centuries and the center of the trials against nazi regime criminals.

40 pieces in a kilo
from an old silver coin stating "the world is not enough"