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Lets say there is a coin you want to buy on ebay. The listing has multiples of that particular coin, let's say they have 10. Also let's say they have the best offer enabled. Now if you submit your best offer, if they accept, will they send you the worst coin from the lot?
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unless it is a sealed coin, from a set, I would ask for a photo of the actual coin, that I would be making an offer on..
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I try and stay away from listings with stock photos, especially with raw coins. A gamble at best.
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I can only speak for myself, but I have many multiquantity listings of raw coins. I usually have priced them based off of the condition of the lowest grade piece (if circulated), and when shipping out, simply grab one from the bag. Not enough time in the day to do much more.
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I never purchase any coin that is listed with multiple quantities available and a stock photo. Ever.... Even if they are TPG graded coins. I want to see exactly what I'm purchasing.
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with dave700x . To me it's turn off just thinking they'll send me an inferior coin by my standards .
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I also wouldn't buy raw coins based on stock photos. However, if the seller has 10 available and all 10 are pictured (like jdmern's listings) then I know what I am getting into.
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I never purchase any coin that is listed with multiple quantities available and a stock photo. Ever.... Even if they are TPG graded coins. I want to see exactly what I'm purchasing.
I agree. I do not know how many promising Ike listings I have come across only to see that it has "xx available" and the photo is not what will be shipped. There does not appear to be anyway to filter those out of my searches, or am I missing something?
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Every seller is different. Some might send the worst they have, some don't care, for me, I try to pick out the best item I have remaining. From a buyers perspective there may be different circumstances as well. For numismatic coins it may make a difference, for bullion, not so much.
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I think ebay unfairly perpetuates a culture of "anti-seller paranoia" these days. The worst thing they ever did was take away the ability of sellers to leave buyers negative feedback. In my experience, the vast majority of sellers are reputable and are looking to build their business by reputable means.

As for your situation, I highly doubt they would just send you the "worst coin from the lot." Check their feedback history. If they have lots of negatives, it may be a red flag. Otherwise, just make your offer and see what happens. The worst thing they can do is say "NO."

The above said, you can't always trust the negatives (or neutrals) a seller has. There are lots of "scammy" buyers out there nowadays looking for deals. Several months ago a buyer complained about a certain seller sending them "low end" coins in a similar circumstance. I forget what the exact details were whether they left neutral or negative feedback. Nonetheless, I went ahead and ordered from them anyways, as their prices seemed reasonable and the good comments on them were glowingly nice. And it turned out to be one of the best experiences I've ever had with a seller on ebay. It went so well that I bought from them a second time! My guess is the bad (and misleading) feedback was left by one of those "scammy" buyers.
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A simple way to judge what you are likely to get depends on the volume that seller does.

If they have huge 10,000+ listings they don't have time to pick or cherry pick. You get the first one they grab.

If the seller doesn't sell a lot you have a better chance of them responding with exact photos of what you would get.

I snatched a best offer last night that was so desirable to me that I regretted asking for $35 off (priced at $525). In fact, I was determined to straight out buy it if I didn't hear before I went to bed.

They accepted the offer and I paid instantly.

On the other hand I don't even bother with one dealer. I've offered 93-95% of their ask and not a single one has been accepted. Why put a BO on a $300 item if you won't accept $280?
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I never purchase any coin that is listed with multiple quantities available and a stock photo. Ever.... Even if they are TPG graded coins. I want to see exactly what I'm purchasing.


Let me elaborate a bit. First and foremost 75% of what I collect is driven by variety, be it VAM, Variety Vista or Wexler listings. You can't do that from a stock photo with more than 10 available. My other interest is MS Lincolns from '35 up which does not lend itself to sight unseen purchases as well.
This type of auction is fine for those who purchase bullion.
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If I buy an average low cost circulated coin, I know what I am getting. Granted it would be preferable to have actual photos but I'm not sure that is physically possible for the seller if they have a massive quantity available.
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I think ebay unfairly perpetuates a culture of "anti-seller paranoia" these days. The worst thing they ever did was take away the ability of sellers to leave buyers negative feedback. In my experience, the vast majority of sellers are reputable and are looking to build their business by reputable means.


Completely agree. They created such a one sided venue for so long that it really just encouraged buyers to be overly aggressive with their claims and demands. The sad part is that it made no real difference for the true scammers the rules were supposed to stop, it was generally the honest sellers who wanted to do the right things that ended up suffering.


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Granted it would be preferable to have actual photos but I'm not sure that is physically possible for the seller if they have a massive quantity available.


It would eat into their listings for the month very quickly as well
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